No Agenda - 1606 - "Food Noise" Transcript and Discussion (2024)

Starting point is 00:00:00 They can't stop losing weight. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's Thursday, November 9th, 2023. This is your award-winning Gibbon Nation Media assassination episode 1606. This is no agenda. Protecting you from trauma-based entertainment and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country

Starting point is 00:00:19 here in FEMA Region No. 6. In the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're all wondering, when did Captain Marvel become a chick? region number six in the morning everybody i'm adam curry and from northern silicon valley where we're all wondering when did captain marvel become a chick and why is she selling nissans i'm john c devorek it's crackpot and buzzkill in the morning she's selling nissans or knee socks i couldn't hear if it was knee socks or knee socks. And what's the difference? Knee socks.

Starting point is 00:00:47 Knee socks. Yeah. They kind of slipped that in. Yeah. And isn't that all Disney now? Marvel? It's going so well with them. It's working out well for them.

Starting point is 00:01:02 Cash cow. A dying cash cow. Do you remember my buddy, the entertainment mogul yes who got fired from uh from disney he was right specifically the part of the comic book yeah it was part of the marvel comic book division so from what i understand you know there's that activist investor what's the guy's name uh he keeps buying up shares. Nelson something? I don't know. So the word is that Ike, he's the 89-year-old guy who owned Marvel, sold it to Disney, and then got fired. That they're trying to do a leveraged buyout. A buyback? Yeah, buyout all of Disney with that Nelson guy. That would be pretty spectacular if they did that.

Starting point is 00:01:47 Well, that'd be very difficult. I think it's difficult, too. But the Nelson guy, apparently, he's got a lot of shares. He's got a lot of control. Yeah. So my guy is not officially involved, but I... Buy him out and do what? Get rid of all the woke people?

Starting point is 00:02:07 Well, then the whole company would fall apart. the whole company's there's nothing left nothing left it's just bones dry bones rattling oh yeah oh yeah um let me just start off by saying everybody don't worry the u.s government is not going to be taking over the Internet next week. Holy crap. Did you follow this? No, I didn't, and I've avoided it. But you might as well do it. Yeah, well, there's not much. Here's what happened.

Starting point is 00:02:37 So the Hill Country Ladies text message group goes nuts. Tina texts me. She says, hey, they're saying the the u.s government's taking over the internet next week i'm like oh do they know that the u.s government was the internet for a while do they know that this is don't even go there i'm like okay you know and but you know the way that sounds is like oh what are they going to do now i immediately think net neutrality something like that because the fcc is working on that apparently was glenn beck who said that like yeah the u.s government's taking over the internet next week and although it is wrong what's going on here the uh the the

Starting point is 00:03:16 fcc is trying to get kind of a backdoor into um title two without having congress pass title two and so yeah and so biden came out with an executive order that uh that activates a little oh what another little unknown fact in the infrastructure act you know the greenie bill which instructs the fcc to basically force with you know with a 56 billion dollar um budget which was assigned to them as a part of that trillion dollar bill um to force equity into broadband access um and so what it'll do now that i look through all i look through the executive order i look through with the fcc's documents there's no traffic management or unlawful content anywhere in those documents yet but it does seem like they're going to force commercial companies uh to do stuff which is wrong by itself but it's not

Starting point is 00:04:18 quite the government taking over the internet which is just one of those memes and people go crazy they get all spun up over it's like calm down people lawsuits will ensue oh of course this will go nowhere it's the same as but i love the disinformation um they passed uh the they passed the bill where uh where your car has to have a some kind of an alcohol detection device it won't start i was like they passed that two years ago but no one's old news no one you know massey i guess tried to get an amendment which of course was struck down i'm like yeah of course that's gonna get struck down not a single one of these congress men or women want mothers against drunk drivers you know protesting outside your door you look like a douchebag and you get code pink and all those people these people are

Starting point is 00:05:13 spineless and they don't care and it's coming 2026 any new car you'll have to blow into a tube before it starts which is why i'm hanging on to my internal combustion engine you know i'm sure that can't be disabled and rejiggered it's so bad i had to take my car in because i had three times that it didn't start and it's like some weird bug that they don't can't find so you have a bug yeah in the car the car somewhere. It's a glitch. Well, they can't reproduce it. So they needed my car for at least a week. I said,

Starting point is 00:05:49 okay, but give me, give me a good replacement car, you know? And, uh, and then I'm there and they say, well,

Starting point is 00:05:56 uh, what electric vehicle do you want? I'm like, what? I don't want an electric vehicle. Well, that's pretty much all we have. What?

Starting point is 00:06:06 I live in Fredericksburg. You're in Austin. I can't even make it back. You can't even make it. You can't even make the drive. So I got this podunk piece of crap because it's the only one that has gas in it. But this is bad.

Starting point is 00:06:20 Oh, you know, all our cars that get electric. Why? I say. Oh, if you think about it, this is what I was told. If you think about it, they're much easier to maintain. Oh, is that the reason why? This is, we're headed for a bad, a bad time with these EVs. This is a bad time. Hold on to your gasoline vehicles, people.

Starting point is 00:06:42 Yeah, or buy a used one now while you can. Yeah, yeah. I'm still... Oh, and Toyota. I love what Toyota did. It's not going to be sold in America, but they have a truck for $10,000. It'll be a brand new truck,

Starting point is 00:06:56 you know, with a bed, you know, a payload bed. 10 grand, brand new, because it has nothing. No electric windows windows no radio it has you know a mirror you adjust with your hand outside the window which you have to roll down completely stripped down i'm like that's beautiful i'd love to have that truck yeah and i think only 10 grand that's. Yeah, I mean, any kind of moderate truck. I wonder how many people alive today, amongst our audience, in fact, that would see the hand window crank and wonder what it was.

Starting point is 00:07:36 They'd think they're doing something lewd. What is this? What is this? Whoa. How does this thing work? Hey, what is this supposed to do? People can't even tell time in an analog clock. Of course, they'll have no idea.

Starting point is 00:07:47 Well, we've talked about that quite a bit. And then we get a lot of pushback. Oh, yeah. Well, I can. Yeah, me, me. No, most people can't tell time from an analog clock. Young people. New people.

Starting point is 00:07:58 New people. Not most people. Which is the majority of people nowadays. Oh, well. Since he's getting no press, i feel really bad for him this just he's he's out of the picture his exit stage left poor volodymyr zelensky can't get any more dough he went on meet the press with uh kristin welkin welker welkerker. And I just have a very short clip because most of it was, he was doing in Ukrainian

Starting point is 00:08:29 and then they had a voiceover translating in real time. But then all of a sudden he switched to English and he had this whole thing like, hey, you know, we got a $40 billion hole in our budget. We need more money.

Starting point is 00:08:41 We need the money. Hey, just so you know, EU has sent us 19 billion. You know, they're not, you're not the only people. We need more money. Please, America, We need more money. We need the money. Hey, just so you know, EU has sent this 19 billion. You know, they're not you're not the only people. We need more money. Please, America, we need more money. We need more money. He's got this voice. And then he came up with, you know what? Just use the Russian money. This is very important. And it's just it will have just interest from these three hundred billion dollars of Russian assets this we will have

Starting point is 00:09:10 we will manage how to close the half of the gap of the budget why to take money from Americans take the assets of Russia we are ok with this if there is a question through society of United States about military and about something else, okay, let's co-produce it.

Starting point is 00:09:35 It will be win-win. This is the one. If you can't give us some financial support, okay, Okay, please. Give us a credit. Hey, man, give us a credit, man. And we will give you back money after the war. And the force, we can buy some ammunition. We will buy. We will defend our jobs.

Starting point is 00:09:59 We will have taxes, and we will buy. We will buy from American companies. Just allow us, and that's it. Give me some credit, man. Come on, give us credit. It'll be okay. We'll pay you back after the war. Oh, my.

Starting point is 00:10:14 He should open a GoFundMe, do a telethon or something. It's getting pretty pathetic. He's been dropped like a hot potato. He's learning what it's like now to be on the world stage as a part of the douchebags that's how it goes bro you're done and it seems like you know there's now everyone's looking for solutions stuff that zelensky will have to say did i lose you no i thought I lost you there. You're just in thought. Yeah, well. What?

Starting point is 00:10:49 I missed that, unfortunately. I'll catch you later. He's quite the character at this point. Yeah. Didn't he be back home fighting? He was at home. He was actually home. Oh, they were doing a video?

Starting point is 00:11:00 Yeah, Zoom. Yeah, doing a Zoom. Zoom. With very little latency, I might add. Zoom, they're doing Zoom. Very little latency, I might add. You never know where that guy is. Have you noticed those flags? Yeah, down the street.

Starting point is 00:11:12 There's some flag maker who has gotten really smart. Have you noticed that all flags, all countries are now using these cones? It's no longer really a flag. It's like a cone made of plastic or something so that the colors wrap nicely. You know, it's not just a flag that's droopy on a pole. Everyone has them. You haven't noticed these? No, I have not.

Starting point is 00:11:38 I don't know what you're talking about, about the cone. Yeah, if you look at any... It's like the cone of silence or a traffic cone. Yeah, like a traffic cone. Yeah, the flag look at any... It's like the cone of silence or a traffic cone. Yeah, like a traffic cone. Yeah, the flag's now... You can just go online, look at Biden, anybody. They all have these cones all of a sudden. That's the new way of displaying your flag.

Starting point is 00:11:57 Cone flags. It's a new thing. Don't have a funny clip of a lawyer with a cool idea. You know, there is a straight flag now all of a sudden. A straight flag? Oh, as opposed to a LGBTQ flag? Yeah, it's a straight flag. And it's basically black and white stripes with the symbols for male and female interlinked in the middle. Oh, no.

Starting point is 00:12:23 How racist. And so there's this straight flag and this this lawyer this i got this from tiktok i think has one of the best ideas ever because it's called the prep the clip is the pride flag lawyer every classroom in america has a rainbow flag or a progress pride flag or whatever they all look like barcodes to me at this point point being is what about this flag how many of you guys have ever seen one of these? Reason I'm asking is because viewpoint discrimination is very clear. You can't censor one person's view on a topic if it's being spoken about at all. You're going to talk about

Starting point is 00:12:58 gay stuff. You can talk about straight stuff. So let's say you go to school, ask a teacher to hang up one of these in the classroom next to the pride flag. They're going to probably say no. But let's just say that they didn't know any better. So you need to educate them. And you give them a packet full of case law that lays out very clearly their obligations under federal law and what is required of them as a government entity or in public schools. And then you go back the next day and ask them to hang the flag up again. Well, at that point, if they say no, that's intentional discrimination because you put them on notice of their obligations. And that could give rise to punitive damages. I've seen cases go for anywhere between 300,000 to 1.1 million. And it just so happens I have a packet full of this information,

Starting point is 00:13:39 case law, laying it out very, very clearly on my website. So you can go to our website, yoderlavalia.com or yoderesq.com, both under the resource tab and get your packet, download it for free. Go to school, ask them to hang up one of these. See what they say. If they say no, give them the packet. They say no again, sell them. Pretty simple.

Starting point is 00:14:02 Let's see what happens. Oh yeah, yeah. We need more lawsuits in the classroom. That's a great idea. Let's see what happens. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we need more lawsuits in the classroom. That's a great idea. That's a great idea. It's like you're just stoking up fires now. YoderESQ.com. Now, here, so I went there to get the packet.

Starting point is 00:14:14 Oh, of course you did. And so they have this form you fill out, and the form doesn't work. It's one of these, some bonehead. I think it was done on purpose. So when you try to put a phone number no matter what number you put in there it refuses to take it no and then it won't get send you the packet and it doesn't register so i think he's been sabotaged but luckily info at yoder esq.com just send him a note and get the packet directly so you have have your packet coming? And tell them to fix their website.

Starting point is 00:14:46 Is your packet on its way? I don't know yet. Oh. I just did this yesterday. Oh, I'm so proud of you. Yeah. Well, there's... That's what we need is more lawsuits.

Starting point is 00:14:56 You're right. Yeah. More in the classroom. While you're at it, get some cameras in that classroom. John C. DeVore... Well, you know, a lot of this wouldn't be taking place if they had but put cameras in the classroom yes so i don't i i feel the need because there's a lot of things going on but we're big pharma is at it again and and it's really it's so blatant now and there's so much money coming into the mainly the m5m networks but this is a global thing

Starting point is 00:15:26 this is global um and and i just need to point some of it out the way the way that this works as you are being sold under the guise of here's a doctor telling you on your morning television show what's good for you or what's not good for you and it's all marketing all of it this is in regards to the fantastic news of a quote-unquote new new weight loss drug called zep bound well in tonight's health watch the fda approves a new drug in the battle against obesity a new version of the diabetes drug, Manjaro, will now be marketed as ZepBound. It's for chronic weight management.

Starting point is 00:16:10 In trials, people who... Wait, hold on. Stop, stop, stop. I can't quite make it out. I couldn't make it out when you said it. Maybe the volume's too low. The name? Is the name of the product DeathBound? DeathBound?

Starting point is 00:16:23 Why would anyone take a drug named death bound i agree that this you know so well as we'll hear in a moment this is just a relaunch of an existing product zep zulu echo papa zep bound probably the worst name ever now that's for chronic weight management in trials people who took the highest dose lost on average 48 pounds the price of the weekly shot is over a thousand dollars a month drug maker eli lilly says the cost will likely be lower if patients have insurance okay so this is just the beginning of the marketing push before we go into the the true entertainment version let's go to cn CNBC and let's have one of these analysts. Let's just explain what an analyst is.

Starting point is 00:17:08 An analyst works for a company that typically makes market in a stock. In this case, it would be Eli Lilly. It doesn't have to be a market. They don't have to necessarily make a market. I said typically. Typically, they're with a company that makes a market, typically, or took a company public.

Starting point is 00:17:29 It's not always the case, but I think in this case it is. Guggenheim, okay? Guggenheim. And so this analyst or his company has a vested interest in the stock. How about that? Is that fair? Right. Or, well, why would they be on

Starting point is 00:17:45 the show is the overriding question exactly and uh but of course there's a chinese wall between the trading desk and the analyst the analyst just goes talk to the company gets all the information brings it back and then also propagates it on cnbc joining us on the phone with his reaction is seamus fernandez pharma analyst at guggenheim Partners. He has a buy rating on Eli Lilly. A buy rating, how coincident. And a $675 price target. Welcome, Seamus. Let me ask a question. Is Zepbound just a different version of or a wholly different drug than Mojaro, which is Eli Lilly's entrance in this field right now no it's basically um and thanks for having me um it's basically the same uh formulation uh it's the same thing with a crappier name um what is unique here is it's just the the different uh name that you have uh of the product and that basically allows for the company

Starting point is 00:18:42 to track the product much better um uh when it's used for the treatment of obesity. And it also is very helpful in terms of payer negotiations. Is this likely to be the biggest selling drug of all time? Stop a second. What he's saying is the name death bound is being used for tracking purposes only. I know. I know. That is the silliest thing I've ever heard.

Starting point is 00:19:08 No, no, no, no. Because they have new marketing dollars. It's like a code. It's like a, like a, you know, so now they know. It's like a Bongino. Use code. To your order. Use code Bongino.

Starting point is 00:19:24 That's exactly right. It's a marketing tracking mechanism. It was very helpful in terms of payer negotiations. Is this... Oh, I'm sorry. I thought that was you, John. Crap. That was weird. Is this likely to be the biggest selling drug of all time? And the CNBC guy's in on it.

Starting point is 00:19:42 Is this going to be the biggest selling drug of all time? Is this likely to be the biggest selling drug of all time? Is this likely to be the biggest selling drug of all time? We think it has a very, very strong shot of being the biggest drug of all time. Hold on a second.

Starting point is 00:19:57 So more so than ibuprofen or aspirin? What they mean is they're going to get the most money in advertising of all time. That's what they're talking about. It's going to be the best for our pockets. Selling drug of all time. We think it has a very, very strong shot

Starting point is 00:20:13 of being the biggest drug of all time. Obviously competing very closely with Novo Nordisk, Ozempic and Wegovy as well. But we think that this category for sure will be the largest pharmaceutical market of all time.

Starting point is 00:20:33 Largest of all time. And you have to know that Novo Nordisk, which makes and markets Wegovy and Ozempic, now its market cap is bigger than the country it's from denmark they spent 600 million dollars in the first nine months alone in the u.s on advertising so it was about time that we got a competitor to come in and boy they are flooding the market and how do you do it what's what do you want to do if you have a competing drug i think you want to um what is like a discredit your your competitor isn't that kind of discrediting is good and also getting dr jan in well here's dr payal kohil dr

Starting point is 00:21:13 coley talk to us about the so-called ozempic plateau which seems like a place in utah you want to ozempic plateau hold on a second there's something wrong with ozempic dr coley talk to us about the so-called ozempic plateau which seems like a place in utah you want to visit is it real and why do people stop losing weight you know it's absolutely real if you think about how our body is designed it's actually designed to fight weight loss right because when we're losing weight our body goes into a catabolic state it starts going to a stress response so when we we trick the body by giving it Ozempic and essentially sort of tricking our metabolism to get us to lose weight, the metabolism kind of fights back. And after a while, you get into this sort of steady state pattern where you end up at

Starting point is 00:21:55 your new set point. So I like to say it's sort of like turning your thermostat down. I like to keep mine at 72 because I run a little cold. But if you turn it down to 68, you start sort of living at 68. That will be your new set point. So you stop losing weight when you get to your osempic plateau. And it's a good thing because imagine what would happen if people kept losing weight on this medication. You would actually start breaking down tissues, get nutritional deficiencies, and really start sort of doing more damage than benefit. Huh. Huh.

Starting point is 00:22:24 Huh. Huh. Huh. It'll do more damage than benefit. Huh. Huh. Huh. Huh. Huh. It'll do more damage than benefit. Well, what is one way you can... Wait, wait. I'm just going to predict the next term is going to be called Ozempic rebound. No, no.

Starting point is 00:22:35 This is even funnier. No, it's funnier. It's funnier than that. What happens if you hit the plateau? Come on. This is right out of the playbook. You drop dead or you get really fat. No, no.

Starting point is 00:22:48 No, no. You got to get fat in these deals to make it work. No. Remember the Sackler marketing strategy. What happens when it's not really helping the pain anymore? What do we have to do? Get them addicted. So if you still need to lose more weight is there

Starting point is 00:23:05 anything you could do let's say i want to break through this plateau do i increase my dose what do i do here yeah there's a lot of tricks you can do so you can increase the dose there's a lot of tricks so uh there's only up to a certain dose that has been studied but a lot of people will call me and say dr coley i've stopped losing weight and they're on a lower dose then i say well let's just go up to the next dose knowing that we can push that dose but if you're already at the highest dose that's not really much now what you can do is switch to the tesla of weight loss medication oh john oh hold on a second you can oh oh let's just stop for a second now if you reach the ozempic plateau then you can just up the dose but you know a lot of my patients they're already maxed out so then then I say, just go to the Tesla of weight loss medication.

Starting point is 00:23:50 Not really much of an option. Now, what you can do is switch to the Tesla of weight loss medications, which is the newer Ozempic. Excuse me. It's called Manjaro. Oh, Manjaro. Yes. And then there's another new one coming. So the Ozempic is sort of the...

Starting point is 00:24:04 Which is the death bound. The death bound. Hey, this is interesting in more than one... I mean, it's an obvious, you're right, the whole thing is just a scam, but when did Tesla replace the Cadillac of, or the Mercedes of, or the Rolls Royce of weight loss?

Starting point is 00:24:26 Yeah, that's a very good question. I don't think Tesla's in the same league as, at least in so far as its impact, as Cadillac of or Rolls Royce, which is the one you'd want to use as the top creme de la creme. Maybe she's got a side hustle going. There's something going on with using Tesla. It's pathetic is what it is. It's me.

Starting point is 00:24:47 Manjaro. Manjaro. Manjaro. And then there's another new one coming. So the Ozempic is sort of the first generation. It hits one receptor. So we'll hold it. Stop again.

Starting point is 00:24:58 So another new one coming, which has already been admitted by the analysts to be the same drug only coded for marketing purposes yes so you could do a numbers count for for how to spend how to do the next buy correct it's so that's not another new one it's another it's just the same one with the old with the but the new name but is she unaware of this is that that how competent? Is she just an incompetent bonehead that we're listening to? Are you questioning the integrity of Dr. Coley? I mean, they're A-B-ing the products here. They're A-B-ing the product names. So now she's promoting Mongero,

Starting point is 00:25:36 and then she'll have the code Bongino, I mean, death bound, and they'll see which one she did better at, which one performed. It's which one perform it's her her key metrics what do you call the kpis her key performance indicators this is all so cynical over the backs of people who are taking this first generation okay it hits one receptor now this is interesting so when she talks about the receptors, I started looking into this stuff. The second generation, when Manjaro hits two different receptors, and then there's actually a third generation one coming that hits three receptors.

Starting point is 00:26:11 And so if Ozempic made you lose about 15% on average of your body weight, Manjaro would be 20 and the third generation would be 25. So a lot of docs are sort of getting people almost there with the first generation and then switching them to the newer and improved version. This is made up. Yes, yes. This is a fantasy. It's fantastic. I love it. If it weren't necessarily, I mean, we don't know.

Starting point is 00:26:36 This is still off-label use, except for maybe, I guess, not Mongero, but the Death Bound. They've received use authorization. Do we know that? You know that for a fact? I believe so. Yeah, I believe so. You believe so.

Starting point is 00:26:50 I don't know for a fact, but I think so. I mean, I can check it because we have computers in front of us. Well, we're guessing no. Let me see. I mean,

Starting point is 00:26:59 death bound. What was it called again? Yeah. Death. Death. Death. D-A-T-H. Approved.

Starting point is 00:27:04 Bound. Death bound.ep. D-A-T-H. Approval. Bound. Death bound. Eli, FDA approves, yes, FDA approves Lily's Zep Bound for chronic weight loss. So, yes.

Starting point is 00:27:16 Chronic, what weight? Chronic. What's chronic weight loss? What does that mean? I don't know. I'm not a doctor, Jim. Chronic obesity would be something, but chronic weight loss?

Starting point is 00:27:30 Hey, they can't stop losing weight. What is chronic weight loss? That doesn't even make any sense. Wait, let me double check that link again. Hold on a second. Now you've got me typing in death bound. This is not good. Death bound.

Starting point is 00:27:46 FDA approval. Hold on a second. Let's see. Let me just look at this link. FDA approves new medication. Oh, I'm sorry. For chronic weight management, which makes even less sense. Wait, again, that makes no sense.

Starting point is 00:27:58 What's wrong with you? I don't know. I just have to deal with weight management. I'm weight management oriented. Oh, you've got a chronic condition. It doesn't make, the usage doesn't make any sense let's chronic weight management is is is like a non-sequitur i i i can't help it this is your fda at work this is what this is what let me see if i can find something here obesity Obesity and overweight are serious conditions that can be associated with some of the leading causes of death, such as heart disease, stroke, and diabetes.

Starting point is 00:28:30 This is Division of Diabetes, Lipid Disorders. Oh, okay. All right, here we go. Heart disease, stroke, and diabetes, says John Sherrits, MD, Director of the Division of Diabetes, Lipid Disorders, and Obesity in the FDA Center for lipid disorders and obesity in the fda center for drug evaluation and research in light quote in light of increasing rates of both obesity and overweight that's interesting just using that term overweight as as a uh what is that overweight in the united states today's approval addresses an unmet medical need.

Starting point is 00:29:07 Wow, these guys are all on the take. Unmet need. How about Ozempic? Oh, it's not good. We need death bound. All right. Oh, and then they do say zip bound causes thyroid, C-cell tumors in rats. But those are rats.

Starting point is 00:29:20 You're not a rat. You're a human being. Don't worry about it. Let's continue with Dr. Kovac. It causes what in the thyroid? C-cell tumors. But only in rats. You're not a rat. You're a human being. Don't worry about it. Let's continue with Dr. Kohler. It causes what in the thyroid? C-cell tumors. But only in rats. That's what everyone needs is a thyroid condition.

Starting point is 00:29:32 It is unknown whether ZipBound causes such tumors, including medullary thyroid cancer in humans. Well, that's interesting. Now, let's go to the next piece here. I'm fascinated by dr coley all right so doc i read that some psychiatrists are prescribing these weight loss drugs to counterside effects of certain antidepressants this is great news you're taking antidepressants you start to gain weight yes it's medication upon top of medication like weight gain what are your thoughts on this it seems like a lot of medication.

Starting point is 00:30:08 I'm torn on this one, Jeff. And I think it's really complicated. In medicine, we do this all the time. We mix our drugs to counteract the side effects of one drug with another drug. I give a person a statin. It raises their blood sugar a little bit. I give them a medicine to lower the blood sugar. Those are sort of well-established mixes. But when we're talking about psychiatry, really tricky thing to do this for a couple of reasons one because we know that ozempic has been linked to some psychiatric problems such as suicidal ideation and you know depression feelings like you want to hurt yourself so if you're treating somebody with an antidepressant and they gain a little weight and then you're giving them ozempic which can actually make the depression problem worse, we don't yet know, that could be counterproductive.

Starting point is 00:30:45 We don't, hold on. We don't yet know. She specifically says we don't yet know. No. In other words, she's making stuff up. And I have never heard of Ozempic causing suicidal thoughts. Oh, yes.

Starting point is 00:30:58 Where did that show up? No, I've heard this. I haven't heard it in their ads. No, it showed up in the marketing for death bound. Hello. So, but this is part of the, and just so we can identify how they're marketing. This is part of the marketing. We go to Good Morning America.

Starting point is 00:31:17 Who do we have here? Well, this is part of the, this may be counter-programming. Well, this is part of the, this may be counter-programming. This morning, a potential new use for the popular weight loss drugs like Ozempic. Oh! Ozempic! Wow, hit the jingle to remind people what they're talking about. Treating weight gain in patients who are taking antidepressants and antipsychotics.

Starting point is 00:31:44 Some mental health medications may cause weight gain. One review reporting that patients gained 5% of their weight on certain antidepressants. One of the leading reasons why patients stop taking medicines for depression and other mood disorders is weight gain. Yet there's a debate among doctors. Psychiatric departments at six major hospitals telling the New York Times they were recommending these weight loss drugs to patients, while seven other health systems said they weren't, citing concerns about the risks and side effects. Dr. Shabani Sethi prescribes them, but carefully. Carefully. I prescribe them, but carefully. They are a tool to help our patients with certain conditions. And I don't believe that they should be blanket prescribed to everybody.

Starting point is 00:32:31 Mom of three, Kristen Eckhart, started taking Ozembic in March. What is, you know, you've got me and and f*cking on this now. What is blanket prescribed to patients? What does that mean as a medical professional? I don't just blanket prescribe. What do you think that means? That means you just give it to everybody for everything. It's like you used to, they used to blanket prescribe penicillin. Oh, okay. All right. So, you know, you, oh, you got a cold, piercing penicillin, or you got the itchy skin, penicillin. Okay. Flee. They are a tool to help our patients with certain conditions. And I don't believe that they should be blanket prescribed to everybody.

Starting point is 00:33:10 Mom of three, Kristen Eckhart, started taking Ozembic in March after she gained 20 pounds and developed prediabetes while taking an antidepressant. While her mood improved, she loathed the weight gain. Mentally, I was feeling a lot more stable much less irritable with my kids and then i was like wow i'm really stable i don't feel like my outside reflects how i feel inside right now and that's oh i don't feel stable on the outside really hard she says she's now out of oh because she what her fingernails are coming off or what's going on here she gained 20 pounds because of the antidepressant sloughing off her skin sloughing off i don't know the weight gain mentally i was feeling a lot more stable much less irritable with

Starting point is 00:33:56 my kids and then i was like wow thanks thanks big pharma i'm much less irritable with my kids oh my god be irritable with your kids so your kid can experience some irritability. Yes, thank you. Okay, kids, whatever you're doing. Hey, Jimmy, oh, you can play with those matches. Don't worry about it. I'm good. My outside reflects how I feel inside right now, and that's really hard.

Starting point is 00:34:20 She says she's now at a plateau, but down 10 pounds and sees an indefinite future on both meds. I don't want to discontinue because I'm afraid of side effects there, and I definitely don't want to discontinue either of the mental health medications. She's on two mental

Starting point is 00:34:39 health medications. She's now on three. She's now on three. Oh my God, this poor woman. Because that's a really bad idea we need more research into the effect of these medicines on people with mental health disorders i'm very optimistic that they will open up a new chapter in our ability to manage the weight gain associated with the use of these medicines. Okay. So in other words, you're driving me nuts, kids. You're crying all the time. This is like, okay, so she's like a mom

Starting point is 00:35:13 who doesn't know how to control her kids and so she has to take pills. Unfortunately, yeah, we've jacked up everybody and instead of dealing with life and dealing with it in you know in within many different ways you know we're just giving people pills and the pills don't work well enough then we have to have they screw them up and they have to take more pills more pills and then you get fat and then you're unhappy because you're you're 20 because you're fat

Starting point is 00:35:40 because you're fat and you know and then you know you get more. So PBS had a doctor on, Dr. Carla Lester. And this, I believe, is the true, this is the real marketing for all of these weight loss drugs. Let's just be honest about it. It's not for diabetes. It's being marketed for people who feel that they're fat. Or maybe they are fat. But how does it actually work? What is actually going on with these?

Starting point is 00:36:11 And you're going to hear some terms here which are title worthy for the show, which I believe to be 100% marketing. Drugs like Wagovi and Ozempic are two medications that have become popular for their weight loss benefits. And their increased popularity has put a spotlight on terms like food chatter and food noise. It's the idea of being preoccupied with food or eating. And while the medications can come with a hefty price tag, patients say the drastic change in their relationship to food is worth it. And as a popular hashtag on social media, thousands have been sharing their own stories about food noise and

Starting point is 00:36:51 these GLP-1 medications like Ozempic. Do you know what food noise is? Food chatter, emotional chatter. I'm Dr. Carla. Dr. Carla Lesser is a pediatrician and an obesity physician. She's been looking at the relationship between food noise and these medications. Food noise, food chatter. These are people who, I'm going to, spoiler alert, these are people who are severely addicted to sugar. And we now call that food noise. Dr. Lester, thank you so much for being here.

Starting point is 00:37:21 Thank you. Wait, hold on a second. How are they defining? She said she used it as though it was some sort of a term that was in play. What does it mean? She's going to explain. I'd like to ask you if you could define what food noise is, according to physicians, and what causes it? Food noise or food chatter isn't a medical term per se. It's a marketing term. These are patients, people who experience kind of constant noise in their brain. So they have a constant craving mind for food.

Starting point is 00:37:52 So it's despite hunger and it doesn't necessarily relate to their weight either. So their food cravings kind of rule the day. They may have just eaten and they're looking forward or thinking about the next meal or the next snack. just eaten and they're looking forward or thinking about the next meal or the next snack and as patients are being started on medications like ozembek like wagobe like manjaro for the first time in their lives they're experiencing a quiet mind they're going throughout their day without this constant food noise food chatter i was addicted to tobacco, which does have some addictive properties. You think? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:38:30 And by the way, I quit cold turkey. It's been almost a year. Not a problem. And I don't smoke anything anymore. But to call an addiction noise is really, as a doctor even, well, it's not really a medical term. It's food noise because you keep hearing in your brain. So what these drugs do is they hit your receptors. Now, I believe that to be in your brain, but supposedly you have receptors everywhere in your body. And this woman is going to contort her words in so many ways to avoid just saying that people are addicted to sugar.

Starting point is 00:39:09 Because that's what it is. But no, no, you have food noise. For some people, the food noise is constant. For some, it's non-existent. Is there some biological reason that some people experience different amounts of food noise? Well, I believe... Different amounts of food noise.

Starting point is 00:39:25 It's just such a dumb question. It's great. This is modern journalism at its worst. PBS. PBS. The sophisticated PBS. Amounts of food noise. Well, I believe that there are a few reasons why we experience it. Number one is, I believe, since our bodies are adapted to keep

Starting point is 00:39:45 us basically exactly where we are, the status quo. So somebody who has insulin resistance, a patient who's struggling with obesity will have more of those hunger cues, less of the fullness cues. And so they may have more of the food noise and food chatter throughout the day. So biologically we need to give ourselves a massive break because it's physiologic, it's brain science. It's brain science! Whoa! There you go! It's brain science. Well, that sounds like you should use any old drug.

Starting point is 00:40:18 Brain science is great. Look at the antidepressants you've been taking. It didn't work. Get another antidepressant. Didn't work. Well, we'll get you some brain science to stop the food noise in your head. Massive break because it's physiologic. It's brain science. Our bodies were not meant to be exposed to high levels of insulin and for sure not persistently high levels of insulin. So over time... When she says high levels of insulin, doesn't she she mean sugar is that what she's saying here is that the translation or my simplifying it too much the insulin would be a result the high levels of insulin would be the result of sugar intake so

Starting point is 00:40:57 there's a connection but that's that's not what she's saying no i'm not persistently high levels of insulin so over time the body adapts and becomes resistant to it, which creates higher levels of insulin. So we know that we have this addictive trifecta of refined sugars or processed carbohydrates with trans fats and salt that create addictive pathways and cravings in our mind. And so humans are highly in tune with our senses. So just a visual cue smelling it with somebody cooking hearing it that will induce craving pathways in the brain that will create more food noise and food chatter throughout the day yes she's she's literally explaining how we've all become sick in the united states not all but many people because you you are infusing so much sugar

Starting point is 00:41:47 that you're addicted to it and then all you need is just an image just an image a flash on tv someone look at that cinnabon you need the smell of a cinnabon in the airport oh man it smells so good and oh i need it i crave it like the smell of a cigarette like the like the anything that you can get addicted to we've addicted people and now we're selling them the antidote which could give you cancer so then why do certain types of medications like glp1 medications affect how food noise is perceived in the body a food noise perceived in the but you mean your brain the addictive quality but okay in the body fine well the glp-1 medications have a lot of effects in the body because we have glp-1 receptors in many parts of our body so how it works is in different ways so works in the gut

Starting point is 00:42:40 it delays gastric emptying so patients feel a sense of delays gastric emptying. So patients feel a sense of fullness. Gastric emptying. Does that mean it makes you constipated? It stops gastric. Well, what does that mean? Gastric emptying. What is that? That means you can't put this stuff in your stomach gets pushed down to the intestines.

Starting point is 00:42:59 No, it's hold on. That's not what she said. Hold on a second. What did she say? And so that helps in that way. It also helps in the gut to. Wait, let me let me go back i want to hear this of our body so how it works is in different ways so works in the gut it delays gastric emptying delays gastric emptying so it doesn't it doesn't push it down it delays it so you're full You're full of crap. Am I to understand that, Dr. Dvorak? Well, it wouldn't be crap, the crap forms later, but you'd be full of pre-crap.

Starting point is 00:43:32 You know, how digested food is lingering and going bad in the stomach. No wonder people are puking. You probably have some great belches. Yeah, people are puking from this stuff. No wonder. Okay, because it promotes not pushing it down to the intestines. Okay. So patients feel a sense of fullness.

Starting point is 00:43:50 Wait, I guess that would account for the frozen stomachs. Exactly, frozen stomach, because it's one big ball of pre-poop. And so that helps in that way. It also helps in the gut to restore how it's supposed to work, is how I explain it to my patients. And I take care of teens. So she takes care of teens, fat teens. Oh, my God.

Starting point is 00:44:12 This is these people are horrible. This is what we're finding out is sometimes when you try a medication and medicine, we find out, oh, there's all these other side effects that are beneficial. And so a powerful one has been to decrease the food noise, the food chatter, the constant cravings the patients experience. And so when we talk about food noise or these cravings, we're not necessarily talking about hunger, but what is the difference between hunger and food noise? Yeah, that's a good question. So hunger would be the physiologic sensation that you need to eat. a good question. So hunger would be the physiologic sensation that you need to eat. And then the food noise and food chatter is more like the craving mind. So that can be induced by so many different things. You know, we're not taught how to check in with ourselves throughout the day. We're having a

Starting point is 00:44:56 lot of stress or restricting ourselves of food. And then we'll get more of that chatter throughout the day. We have to check in with ourselves. Hey, self, how you doing? I got to check in. So, so this is clearly, this is why they're, they're saying things like, Oh, it could also help against cocaine addiction and other things. And it's so beneficial because it's doing something to your brain. It is disrupting the neural pathways that you've associated with sugar addiction, which by itself sounds like a pretty good, but let's, first of all, let's just admit what it is and say, hey, we're messing with your brain. But I don't think anyone really knows what the true side effects long-term can be. And how does that affect anything?

Starting point is 00:45:44 I fully expect the fast food industry to start fighting this by telling you that you're going to die from these drugs we're going to have studies that are going to show all if you take these things which severely impact our bottom line because people aren't eating sugary sweets i have before you i i like the thesis, but I don't know that the fast food industry can think like that. I would think that, well... I think if you worked there and you were presenting this,

Starting point is 00:46:19 even somebody presenting it like you just did, I wonder if they can think like that. There's got to be at least one. Look at Mars or any of the, like the, forget fast food. Let's just think about sweets, candy, Cadbury, Mars. These guys, their bottom line is getting hit because people aren't snacking because the food. Is there evidence of this? Not yet.

Starting point is 00:46:43 Actual evidence? Not yet. Stock price evidence? Not yet evidence not yet not yet not yet not yet not yet but i have a feeling if this rolls out the way it is that people will not be eating sweets as much they may hold on i'm gonna keep arguing with this point of yours because i know what you're trying to say but i'm gonna argue against it it's quite likely that if you can lose weight on all this with this stuff and you get real thin, you say, well, I can eat more sweets. Possibly. It may actually boost the bottom line of the sugar companies. Well, why don't you, why don't you go long and I'll go short. I'm going to take those Zempik and I can eat more

Starting point is 00:47:17 sweets. I don't have to cut down on my, I don't have to worry about what I eat. I'm going to go short. You can go long. go long i will go long now the next question is will does it behoove insurance companies to pay for this because you really want the insurance i mean the med the pharmaceutical industry wants people sick but of course they are you know in bed with the insurance companies. Where does this have to give? I mean, do we want people getting healthy by allowing insurance to pay for it or not? Maybe CNBC has an answer.

Starting point is 00:47:58 And who's going to pay for it and how? Because the list price is $1,000 a month. Some insurers are going to cover it, I assume, but most insurers are probably not going to want to. Correct, yeah. I mean, I think this is probably the main... Hold on, stop again. Why does he say that?

Starting point is 00:48:12 I'm going to just keep interrupting these clips. Why does he say that? Why does he say that? Well, I want you to go back and play that again, but I'm going to ask the more simple question, the earlier question, the question that should be asked that they won't ask on CNBC ever. Huh?

Starting point is 00:48:24 What gives them the right... earlier question the question that should be asked that they won't ask on cnbc ever what what what gives them the right that's not a right you can do whatever you want but what gives them the impetus well the impetus is another thing this drug doesn't cost that much to manufacture they're gouging the public why doesn't somebody do something about gouging this is probably a ten dollar drug not a thousand well the semaglutide phoebe the semaglutide is uh is generic it's open source yeah it's free it's free you can basically buy it uh and many different online you can buy it you have to buy your own syringe and inject it and the marketing you know you can't put on there just like ozempic or you know i can't believe it's

Starting point is 00:49:13 not wagovi you can't phoebe it's okay you can have your food noise later okay let's listen again this guy right off the bat says i presume they don't want to pay for it why not if it's if it's saving the the idea is it's healthy we know it's not but it's healthy it is saving people from dying from cardiac issues because they're severely obese or overweight but i presume they don't want to pay for it. And who's going to pay for it and how? Because the list price is $1,000 a month. Some insurers are going to cover it, I assume, but most insurers are probably not going to want to. Correct, yeah.

Starting point is 00:49:54 I mean, I think this is probably the main challenge is gaining reimbursem*nt for the obesity opportunity over time. Obesity opportunity? for the obesity opportunity over time that being obesity opportunity this what's your wow what's your obesity opportunity index this is good obesity opportunity we do have some really important data coming this weekend from novo nordisk called the select study oh we've got new studies coming. Stand by. Marketing on the way. And that could really prove out that the benefits of this product for patients who have high

Starting point is 00:50:34 cardiovascular risk. So this may become more of a cardiovascular drug at the end of the day. Yeah, that's how we do it. It's also used broadly in the diabetes setting as well. Yeah, that's how we do it. It's also used broadly in the diabetes setting as well. And there's a very compelling argument for both managing weight and blood sugar as driving material benefits in a patient population diagnosed with diabetes. And these products have been moving forward in the treatment regimen among physicians for the last decade, honestly. And now that they've got potent drugs like this, they're looking forward to using them

Starting point is 00:51:11 earlier and earlier in the treatment paradigm. So it always makes sense to pay for... Treatment paradigm. Treatment paradigm. That just makes up terms. I love it. They're looking forward to using them earlier and earlier in the treatment paradigm. So it always makes sense to pay for diabetes drugs for sure. It always makes sense to treat patients

Starting point is 00:51:32 with high cardiovascular risk. And then more broadly, if it's just a weight loss drug, you know, for patients who are, you know, trying to lose a little bit of weight or don't want to go to the gym as much. I think that's a little bit of a different dialogue. Hey, you don't want to go to the gym. Take a shot. It's fine. Don't worry about it.

Starting point is 00:51:51 Okay. I get it. So they're going, so because they are approved for weight loss, what was it? What was that? What was it again? The great mid paradigm.

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Starting point is 00:52:04 no, no, no, no, no, no, The weight loss thing was, hold on a second, I'll get it. Chronic weight management. So chronic weight management will be seen as good for your heart. And maybe that way we can get, I just, I don't understand the insurance business. Isn't the point that you don't want to pay out more money? So wouldn't you want to get people on the obesity opportunity drugs?

Starting point is 00:52:36 Anti-obesity opportunity drugs? Not at $1,000 a pop when they know it doesn't cost that much to even come close to manufacturing price. Okay, so that's their problem. They're not going to be... Insurance companies, not to defend them, they just don't want to be taken for suckers. Okay. And that's what this sounds like.

Starting point is 00:52:54 And so you're an insurance company saying, these are a thousand bucks. What? Wait, it costs you 10 cents to make this stuff and you're going to gouge us for a thousand bucks because you can? Yeah. No. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:53:05 No. going to gouge us for a thousand bucks because you can yeah no yeah no anyway eli lily stock jumped on uh the uh the approval of the drug so but i this none of this sounds good it doesn't sound healthy you should just not. Just don't eat sugary snacks all day. It's that simple. They don't know what's going to... It only causes cancer in rats. Who cares? It's a rat. We want them dead anyway.

Starting point is 00:53:36 Why even test it then on the rat? You're testing it on the rat for a reason. Yeah, because the rat has similar... doesn't the rat have similar genetics? What the rat gets, you'll get. But when the rat gets something, you say, well, you know, I don't know. Screw it. Yeah, yeah. Stupid rat.

Starting point is 00:53:57 Anyway, so we're being flooded with true mis- and disinformation for marketing purposes, from competing drugs. Competing networks. Competing networks. Well, PBS, doesn't Eli Lilly, aren't they an underwriter of PBS? Of all the drug companies are. Yeah, that's true. They all compete.

Starting point is 00:54:20 And that's what you're being, it's being, oh, it's just, it's so disheartening. And what do we say? We should not allow advertising, sponsorship, underwriting, whatever you want to call it, on television or any media. No. And how come they're not funny? It corrupts the system and the system is totally corrupted by it. But you know what they should do? Only allow it on podcasts.

Starting point is 00:54:44 Because you and i would switch in a heartbeat oh yeah we'd be advertising center value for value screw that we would we would slam ozempic in a heartbeat for the competing food noise solution brought to you which is death bound this is a great name who that that really bugs me who came up with that name what meet i'd like to be in that meeting all right you know the ozempic has oh oh oh ozempic is dynamite you know everybody i mean they're even doing ads of the guy from pilot. Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, Depp, No, we need a new song. We need a new version of a classic, but then they come up with Zeppbound. Why?

Starting point is 00:55:34 Why? I don't understand. Zeppbound. So stupid. Probably has a different meaning in Denmark. No, no. Eli Lilly is Zetbound. They're not in Denmark. That's Novo Nordisk. They're the Ozempic. They're smart. They are geniuses. Marketing genius right there. They get Hollywood to use it. So, you know, now the hashtag is food noise. Food noise. Food chatter. It means your brain is is addicted addicted no we have uh i don't have anything on this no i'm done i'm done don't take it people

Starting point is 00:56:15 i did watch the debates which were last night yeah yes worst ever hold on i give vivek Yes. Worst ever. Hold on. I give Vivek high marks for being entertaining. High marks. High marks to Vivek. She said something on these debates, which is too much. But I have a bunch of clips.

Starting point is 00:56:38 They're all short, with the exception of one of them, which was the fight. They got into a fight. I just took a chunk. I mean, I don't have the whole thing broken down. I just have a piece where they got into it to the point where they're starting to yell at each other. Can we set the stage for us? This is the Republican debates.

Starting point is 00:56:57 On NBC. On NBC. Makes total sense. With Kristen Welker, Welkin, Walkenen christopher walken moderating with uh the other dude what's his name what's that guy's name um who took over the lester holt and then this this the podcaster radio guy who looks just like uh stephen king and every time they put him on the screen i kind of jump back a little bit and and so this didn't include trump by far the forerunner who instead uh counter-programmed in florida and had his thing

Starting point is 00:57:31 going on there and so this it's it's really it's really just entertainment i mean none of these people have a shot at becoming the nominee no so it's it's just it's just purely for for megan kelly to to be outraged over isn't that what this is for it's just i think so and the thing though was the best part yes the best part was nikki haley yes under her breath calling vivek scum right. Get into these clips. Tell me, what are we doing? It starts off with a stupid question asked by Hal Holbrook, whoever that guy was, that third guy. And it starts off with a dumb question about,

Starting point is 00:58:17 should we ban TikTok? And the whole thing got into it. It got into a heated screaming match. But it starts off with Chris Christie. Gallagher, who is chairman of the House Bipartisan Select Committee on the Chinese Communist Party, published a long essay on TikTok following the flooding of pro-Hamas propaganda onto TikTok accounts across the United States. Chairman Gallagher called it shocking. He called the app predatory, controlled by America's preeminent adversary.

Starting point is 00:58:45 One used to push propaganda and divide America. It's spyware, he said, a means of surveillance. Governor Christie, do you agree with Chairman Gallagher? And if so, would you ban or force the sale of TikTok? I agree 100 percent with Chairman Gallagher. Let me say this. TikTok is not only spyware. It is polluting the minds of American young people all throughout this country. And they're doing it intentionally. And when you saw what happened in the last few weeks with all of this anti-Semitic, horrible stuff that their algorithms were pushing out at a gargantuan rate. Gargantuan. This is China trying to further divide the United States of America. And this is one of the big failings among many of the Trump administration.

Starting point is 00:59:33 He talked tough about TikTok. I heard him do it many times. But when it came down to it, he did not ban them when he could have and should have. And now since then, we've had an additional nearly six years of this type of poison be put out throughout the United States, even putting aside the spying, which we know is going on in the theft of American personal data and information. Okay. I just have to make a few comments here. First of all, I love the tough tick-tock talk. That's very good. You know, this part of this is because of a debate where Hawley was on the floor saying,

Starting point is 01:00:14 the Senate saying, we've got to ban TikTok. And then Rand Paul got up and said, are you nuts? Do you want Republicans to lose everything? So this is the main platform young people are on i don't know if that came up in the debate but there's so much in here tiktok is used by china to steal our data much more than any other app on your phone oh yeah i'm sure oh yeah yeah that's right it's spyware oh yeah sure yeah it's more spyware than any of the SDKs that Meta or anyone else uses. Oh, yeah, it's much, much worse.

Starting point is 01:00:47 They don't even know what spyware is. No, they don't. They're full of crap. This guy's disqualified. He should get on the Ozempic. Not only that, but he lied about the fact that Trump did try to ban TikTok, and it was the courts that told him no, and that was the end of it. Yes.

Starting point is 01:01:03 Somebody did it later in the debate. Somebody corrected him on this. It's also a very bad precedent, don't you think? It's ridiculous. Because who do they ban next? You know, who's next on the block? Well, he brings up another point, and then that point has to be slipped into the question for the next guy. But let's go to Christy, too.

Starting point is 01:01:22 So in my first week as president we would ban tiktok they want to go ahead and sell it let them go ahead and sell it but i'll tell you another reason we would do it facebook's not in china x is not in china what they're not permitting a free flow of information to the chinese people from our social media companies oh chris oh chris so the question has to be restated with the with that with that in mind so we end up with the clip three i want to go to santas oh sorry let me rewind to santa ronda i want to go to governor de santis would you ban hey is that how the guy! I want to go to Governor DeSantis. Would you ban or... Hey, is that how the guy talked? Is that the podcast guy? He's a radio

Starting point is 01:02:10 guy. Oh, he's not... Hugh Hewitt or whatever his name is. Oh, Hugh. I got you. I want to go to Governor DeSantis. Would you ban or force the sale of TikTok, regardless of whether or not China allowed American apps to operate in China? Yes, I think that China's the top threat we face.

Starting point is 01:02:26 They've been very effective at infiltrating different parts of our society. So my policy on China and the Chinese Communist Party is very simple. We win, they lose. Wow, that's some tough talk. I like it. What does that even mean? Here, I have a policy. Hey, Adam, I have a policy.

Starting point is 01:02:44 Yeah, we win, they lose. Heads I have a policy. Hey, Adam, I have a policy. Yeah. We win. We win. They lose. Heads I win, tails you lose, China. Is that a policy or is that some sort of wishful thinking? What is that really? It's entertainment. It's a policy?

Starting point is 01:02:54 It's entertainment. How is that a policy? It's something that Tim the Pool Man can get very upset about because it's the wrong boots. You have lifts in your boots and you're talking dumb. So, okay. So that was the stupidest thing in the whole debate, I might add.

Starting point is 01:03:12 Did anyone say bomb China? Bomb them again. Bomb them again, eh? If she was there, we would have had that. So here we go with DeSantis. And then they introduce Haley. Oh oh nicky nick comes into play she loves war doesn't she no she's a warmonger no no no she loves war just like war like i like watching war videos i like watch anything john wayne and war is good we win

Starting point is 01:03:41 they lose and in order to do that it's not just military it's economic and it's cultural and as the dad of a six five and a three-year-old i'm concerned about the data that they're getting from our young people and what do you have your kids on tiktok you numb nut you better that's what i'm thinking he's got a six a five and a three and he's concerned that the chinese are stealing information from these kids they shouldn't be on tiktok they're polluting they shouldn't have a phone what do you mean be on tiktok thank you i'm concerned about the data that they're getting from our young people oh they got data like oracle has nothing the data brokers don't have anything. No, no, no. It's TikTok grabbing the spyware. This is insulting to anyone who knows even the tiniest bit.

Starting point is 01:04:32 You know, just before we get to this, there was an actual hack of the, what do you call it? The Atlassian software. I'm trying to think what it's called now. And the contractors I know who work for the military are saying this is the worst, and China has everything. They have all information from any contractor who does any kind of technology work on anything in our u.s military and they and you know they've they're kind of like

Starting point is 01:05:16 um you know you guys kind of plug that hole don't make this public don't tell any about it and it's atlassian atlassian is it and it is horrible and there's no attention paid to it zero instead oh no china's china's tiktok is spying on your confluence confluence you've heard of confluence the the product confluence no i don't know the product confluence everyone uses it it's where you put all your notes all the programming code it's like github on steroids it's been hacked for for a few weeks now and they're not talking about it but it's it's really really bad and no no tiktok with with ronda's five-year-old i'm concerned about the data that they're getting from our young people and what they're doing to

Starting point is 01:06:05 pollute the minds of our young people. These kids get these devices and they have a mind of their own. And I know a lot of parents are looking. It's hard to even keep it out. China's obviously the most extreme, but this is happening with other things. So we are going to do that and we are going to make sure to protect the American people. It's a full spectrum approach to be able to fend China off. Yes, military deterrence. Yes, economic decoupling, but also their role in our culture. If we ignore that, we're not going to be able to win the fight. Thank you, Governor. Ambassador Haley, speak to the parents out there. They're probably TikTok apps on half the phones in this auditorium. No, I'm going to speak to the fact that two people hit me and you didn't let me respond.

Starting point is 01:06:46 So let's first talk about the fact that they want to talk about the Chinese land from 10 years ago. Yes, I brought a fiberglass company 10 years ago to South Carolina, but Ron, you are the chair of your economic development agency that as of last week said

Starting point is 01:07:02 Florida is the ideal place for Chinese businesses. Not only that, you have a company that is manufacturer of Chinese military planes. You have it. They are expanding two training sites at two of your airports now, one which is 12 miles away from a naval base. Then you have another company that's expanding, and they were just invaded by the Department of Homeland Security.

Starting point is 01:07:27 So now we have millionaires who are part of the military industrial complex comparing who has worse stuff in their states. In their states. Nikki Haley, you know, there's a lot of Republicans who really dig

Starting point is 01:07:42 her. I don't know. I can't. I don't get it either. I don't understand. I can't, I don't get it either. I don't understand. I don't understand. She seems like a horrible person. I don't get it. I just don't get it. Why?

Starting point is 01:07:52 Well, this gets worse. So let's, yeah, no five. This is, do you finish that one? Yeah, that's done.

Starting point is 01:07:59 That's done. That was four. Okay. So, uh, I didn't know that they were building chinese military planes in florida but that's what she says yeah well what happens with did they fly them back to china well what's the deal i don't know i don't know let's find out i never heard that so but okay yeah so now we start

Starting point is 01:08:19 getting into it because she opens the gate to bickering. So here we go with the fight that starts. Mine was 10 years ago. Yours was six months ago. What's your story? And I abolished that agency that she's talking about. Enterprise Florida, we abolished it and of course we banned China from buying land. He scrubbed the website

Starting point is 01:08:39 last week. Not exactly a great recruiting pitch if you're banning them from purchasing land. You scrubbed the website last week. Thank you, Ambassador Haley of Florida. You scrubbed your website last week. This is an embarrassment. Mr. Ramaswamy, we've talked about this. You campaign on TikTok. How do you get TikTok banned if you use it? Well, I want to laugh at why Nikki Haley didn't answer your question, which is about looking at families in the eye. In the last debate, she made fun of me for actually joining TikTok while her own daughter was actually using the app for a long time. So you might want to take care of your family first.

Starting point is 01:09:14 Leave my daughter out of your voice. The next generation of Americans are using it. And that's actually the point. You have her supporters propping her up. That's fine fine here's the truth you're just easy answer leave my daughter out of your voice you suppose it was mouth and then you should have slapped him like uh will will did to chris rock yeah that would have been that would if you hear carefully at the end there she calls him scum no i know i heard it everyone heard it we'll play it again right here you're just scum here's the truth you're just

Starting point is 01:09:48 easy answer you're just scum you're just scum yeah well in a way he's scummy in a way they're all scum this is there's some i think there's some more subtle thing they're both indian she's indian and i think that there's a clan issue here. Oh, that's what we need in our politics. Yeah, that's exactly what we need. We didn't have Indian classicism yet. Oh, well, good. I have one 21 second clip of Haley, which I thought was on the level of Judge Janine.

Starting point is 01:10:22 Haley, which I thought was on the level of Judge Jeanine. And it was about what she would say to Benjamin not Netanyahu about Hamas. Yeah, play it because the last clip is going to wrap it. The first thing I said to him when it happened was I said finish them.

Starting point is 01:10:38 Finish them. That's like end them. It's like that is so creepy. The way she says that. that yeah she's a creep finish them finish them all right uh so here we go so this is the final clip of this of the debate it's all about this one topic i didn't go any further i could have clipped thing all night but this is the bickering stuff and here we go with the fight continued and this is the uh This is the bickering stuff. And here we go with the fight continued. And this is the just it just falls apart. Here's the truth. The easy answer is actually to say that we're just going to ban one app. We got to go further. We have to ban any U.S. company actually transferring

Starting point is 01:11:17 U.S. data to the Chinese. Here's a story most people don't know. Airbnb hands over U.S. user data to the CCP. Now, that's a U.S.-owned company. So this is the problem when you have Republicans that temporarily go the way the winds blow, and now it's popular to talk tough on China when she was U.N. ambassador, called them literally her words, not mine, our great friend. You know what he should have done? He said, you're just a dot head. He should have done that. You towelhead Nikki Haley. Problem when you have Republicans that temporarily go the way the winds blow,

Starting point is 01:11:48 and now it's popular to talk tough on China when she was UN ambassador, called them literally her words, not mine, our great friend. You can't be fair weather fans of the right policy. Get to the root cause. Even U.S. companies in Silicon Valley are regularly doing it. Cut the virtue signaling. The fact of the matter is Democrats are on TikTok today cut the virtue signaling the fact of the matter is democrats are on tiktok today the only person one of the few people who stop stop stop you know

Starting point is 01:12:12 this guy rattles off stuff so fast he's a fast talker he's like ben shapiro yes well sending data to china because you get paid money is not virtue signaling. No, that's called commerce. But he makes it sound as though the whole thing's interrelated virtue signaling. Stop virtue signaling by sending your data to China. What? That doesn't make any sense. But he talks so fast, he blathers this stuff out like a machine gun. And, you know, I don't like him either. Hey, are you getting worked up over this?

Starting point is 01:12:44 Yeah, Go on. The right policies get to the root cause. Even U.S. companies in Silicon Valley are regularly doing it. Cut the virtue signaling. The fact of the matter is Democrats are on TikTok today. The only person, one of the few people who is putting up content the way the actual algorithms work, speaking for pro-Israel views or others, more Republicans will join it.

Starting point is 01:13:06 But stop U.S. companies from turning over data to Chinese companies. Moderate is like, Kristen, don't get to respond to personal attacks, but you do. Thank you very much. You know, when he talks about me praising China, he doesn't know the fact that the reason China was praised was because I negotiated with China and Russia the largest set of sanctions against North Korea in a generation. That is literally the reason North Korea stopped testing ballistic missiles. So I

Starting point is 01:13:32 said China did good on their part. What? Wait a minute. I thought it was Trump who said, I got a button here and mine go boom. Wasn't that what? No, it's really her. She's the one who did it all. Oh, Nikki did. We should give her money. Because I negotiated with China and Russia the largest set of sanctions against North Korea in a generation.

Starting point is 01:13:55 We are the that is literally the reason North Korea stopped testing ballistic missiles. So I said China did good on their part. That was a negotiation. You said Nikki. Those are your words, not mine. And so just own up to it. You would never change your mind. That's allowed. But don't lie to the people about what you've said or what you said, Nikki. Those are your words, not mine. And so just own up to it. You would never have been able to get that negotiation done. But don't lie to the people about what you've said or what you've done in South Carolina. I have fought against China my entire career at the United Nations. Every day I fought China. And I did it by making sure no one could get any agency heads in the UN.

Starting point is 01:14:18 I did it by making sure that we called them out on human rights. I did it by making sure that we held them accountable on everything that they did. That's the reason we got out of the Human Rights Council. That's the reason we called them out. And I have, there's nothing to say I haven't started. Nikki, I know this guy wasn't as good as your turn. Toronto Swamiji made afterwards.

Starting point is 01:14:37 100% entertainment. It's great. This is fantastic. This is fun to watch. This is why we watch debates. It's the only reason. I have have a clip i have one clip i thought debates yes okay the opening vivek ramaswamy and the first thing he does is he takes the uh the the chairwoman of the Republican Party. Isn't she a Romney? I think she's even related.

Starting point is 01:15:09 I think she is, yeah. Yeah, related to the Romneys, and she's a big Romneyite. Ronna Romney. Is her name? Let me see. Her name is... I don't know her name.

Starting point is 01:15:18 I'm going to look it up. She's no good. Ronna Romney McDaniel. There you go. And not just that, he takes the host to task. I thought this was the best of the entire entertainment show. Please make your case.

Starting point is 01:15:31 Why should you be the nominee and not the former president? I think there's something deeper going on in the Republican Party here. And I am upset about what happened last night. We've become a party of losers at the end of the day. We've cancered the Republican establishment at the end of the day. We're a cancer to the Republican establishment. Let's speak the truth. I mean, since Ronna McDaniel took over as chairwoman of the RNC in 2017, we have lost 2018, 2020, 2022, no red wave that never came. We got trounced last night in 2023. And I think that we have to have accountability in our party.

Starting point is 01:16:04 For that matter, Ronna, if you want to come on stage tonight, you want to look the GOP voters in the eye and tell them you resign, I will turn over my yield my time to you. And frankly, look, the people there are cheering for losing in the Republican Party. Think about who's moderating this debate. This should be Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan and Elon Musk. We have 10 times the viewership asking questions that GOP primary voters actually care about and bringing more people into our party. Do you think the Democrats would actually hire Greg Gutfeld to host a Democratic debate? They wouldn't do it. And so the fact of the matter is, I mean, Christian, I'm going to use this time because this is actually about you in the media and the corrupt media establishment.

Starting point is 01:16:43 Ask you the trump russia collusion hoax that you pushed on this network for years was that real or was that hillary clinton made up disinformation answer the question go go i love that by the way answer the question go i'm gonna use that or was that hillary clinton you should try that with your wife hey answer the question everybody out there listening to the show should think about using I'm going to use that. Or was that Hillary Clinton? You should try that with your wife. Hey, answer the question. Go. Everybody out there listening to this show should think about using that technique. Yes, it's very effective.

Starting point is 01:17:10 Answer the question. Go. It's made up. Yeah. Disinformation. Answer the question. Go. Mr.

Starting point is 01:17:17 This is how we get our country back. We need accountability because this media rigged the 2016 election. They rigged the 2020 election with a Hunter Biden laptop story. And they're going to rig this election. Your time is up. Let me turn to Governor Christie. Oh, fabulous. I thought that was great.

Starting point is 01:17:38 I really loved it. That has nothing to do with the presidential debate. No, it had nothing to do with anything. I got to call Joe because, you know, Joe, he'll be like, this is so weird. the presidential debate no i had nothing to do with anything i love i gotta call joe because you know joe he'll be like this is so weird he doesn't understand any of it he says it's so weird that people think that i should be deleting the debate with elon and what was the what was the other one with elon musk uh greg guttfeld and tucker uh, yeah. That'll be the... Megyn Kelly, get ready to talk about something. Dan Bongino.

Starting point is 01:18:08 No, no. Review background. Mr. Obama is absolutely right. I think that Tucker... Code Bongino. Use promo code Bongino. Meanwhile, there were some actual problems with this off-year vote, which for some states,

Starting point is 01:18:27 there are some people, there's some positions and state legislations that had to be voted on. Texas had a whole bunch of propositions. I think I said no to almost every single one of them. Should the state of Texas

Starting point is 01:18:41 make money available to build pharmaceutical facilities? No. Should we make money available to build out broadband? No. Should we make money available to build out broadband? No. Let them do it commercially. Stupid questions. But this voting machine glitches.

Starting point is 01:18:54 Actual glitches. Well, we've got to. Let's not talk about what happened in Pennsylvania. Now headlines with words like voting machines malfunction. Voting machine glitch flipped votes, issue at voting machines and counties face ballot marking machine issues. Headlines like these on the day of an election add to the distrust in America's democracy. By the way, this is not some mainstream news. This is straight arrow news. Northampton County, Pennsylvania, with a population

Starting point is 01:19:25 of over 300,000, voters were asked to decide whether two judges should be retained for additional 10-year terms. When voters received their printed voting summary, the yes or no votes were switched. Election officials learned it was an issue on all 300 plus voting systems in the county. Election officials say it was a clerical and coding error. Coding error. And even though printed voting records showed a switch in votes, the voting machine's back-end system tabulated the votes accurately. Don't worry, the back-end office, the back-end systems got you covered. It's all fine.

Starting point is 01:20:02 Meanwhile, in Kentucky, with a governor's race on the line, voting machines in some counties were selecting the wrong options on touchscreens. When a voter went to select a straight party vote, election officials say sometimes it would highlight the wrong party. Oh, yes. Yes. We've had issues. This is not the way an election is supposed to be conducted. That all sounds horrible. And it is. But that's not the voting. That's a ballot marking device. Oh, okay. Apparently, the issue was a persistent one, starting days before during early voting.

Starting point is 01:20:34 That's according to the election official. So these flyers were hung at polling locations, alerting a voter to select their candidate by clicking their name rather than the tiny box. All right. so that was throughout the country then pennsylvania people people noticed that their votes were flipped and this immediately became an issue they they hauled in the uh the senior vice president of customer operations of election Systems and Software. That's the company responsible for the Pennsylvania votes. And she was asked, hey, how did this happen that people's votes were flipped?

Starting point is 01:21:16 What went wrong? What happened here? That's been brought to my attention. But yes, I believe so. Why would that be? Well, like I said, it was a human error based on you know someone from our team that programmed the election and they i love the term by the way someone on our team who programmed the election starting to sound like that's how it works these days well like i said it was a human error based on you know someone from our team that programmed the election and they made a mistake

Starting point is 01:21:48 putting the printed text on the card as compared to the vote screen. Because the retention is a lot of text to it, it's got to be abbreviated on the printed card. So someone on our team inadvertently put the wrong name. Inad inadvertently come when will we learn well you know the way to deal with this and to end it is when you catch somebody like this you call for another election and make that company pay for it elections cost millions of

Starting point is 01:22:20 dollars to do yeah election a complete redo and you make them pay for it yes and they should sign a document before they're given the contract how about they'll be liable for all these issues and how about fully liable how about we look we would have the liability in this country vaccines who cares what happens to you okay since you bring that up let's go to bobby the op because bobby the op is also in the news talking about presidential hopefuls pbs there we are again everybody let's uh let's play elitist voices of america this is npr or p. Can I ask you another question about your candidacy? Because a number of your own family members have spoken out against it. Four of your siblings issued a statement denouncing your candidacy, saying it's dangerous for the country.

Starting point is 01:23:16 They wrote in a statement, Bobby might share the same name as our father. He doesn't share the same values, vision or judgment. Your family are icons of the Democratic Party. They do not typically speak out against their own, but they are in this case. Why? Well, I have 105 family members, living family members. A lot of them are supporting me. But let me ask you this. Does your family always agree with everything that you do? They don't always agree with me, but I think they'd vote for me if I ran for president. Well, a lot of them are going to vote for me, but not all of them. Your siblings, though, who know you better. My family has a long history with President Biden.

Starting point is 01:23:55 There's five members of my family that are working for the administration, and President Biden has a statue, a bust of my father behind him at the Oval Office. I've known President Biden has a statue, a bust of my father behind him at the Oval Office. I've known President Biden virtually my entire life. All the people in my family, or many of the people, including all the people that you mentioned there, the four members of my family you mentioned there, have strong, long friendships with President Biden. And I understand they're disappointed with the fact that I would run against them but they're more than disappointed sir they're saying that it's dangerous for the country dangerous well you would have to ask them why don't you have them on this show and you can ask them why they said that all right so now to the vaccine question because of course we have to roll out the uh

Starting point is 01:24:42 the anti-vaxxer and i have to say i thought bobby the op did a really good job on this um and maybe even scored a point or two let me ask you about specific concern your family's expressed in the past too which is your controversial views on on vaccines and being part of the anti-vaccine well you've said previously that no vaccine is safe or effective, which is... I've never said that.

Starting point is 01:25:09 You did say that in a podcast interview in July. No, I've never said that. You did say that. There are quotes and that recording is there. You are wrong and you're making something up.

Starting point is 01:25:17 On Fox News, you said that you still believe in this idea that vaccines can cause autism, which has long been developed. But now you're changing the subject. What you said earlier before. No, sir, I'm asking about your views on vaccines.

Starting point is 01:25:28 Well, that's why I'm happy to say that my views are that vaccines should be tested like all other medications are tested. They should have placebo-controlled trials prior to licensure. It's the only medical product, the only medical product or medical device that is allowed to get a license without engaging in a safety test so you do not believe a statement that no vaccine is safe and effective i've never said that according to these reports and the recordings that's the problem if you are reading reports about me in the mainstream media, including this network. They're almost all inaccurate.

Starting point is 01:26:08 I'm not anti-vax. I've never been anti-vax. You just spoke before one of the largest anti-vaccine groups in the country a few days ago. That's not what they call themselves. That's not what they call themselves, but that's what they advocate for. You know what? I speak to a lot of people, and I don't agree and I don't pretend to agree with everything that everybody in the audience says.

Starting point is 01:26:29 Can I ask you? I can agree. I, you know, I've said from the beginning, listen, I fought against mercury and fish for 40 years. Nobody called me any fish. I like the idea that we have seatbelts and cars. Nobody calls me any automobile. I want vaccines that are safe, just like every other medicine, and that are adequately tested. It doesn't mean I'm anti-vaccine. It just means that I'm sensible and have common sense. I think that most Americans, if they understood my views, my real views, rather than this distortions of my views and the mischaracterizations that they hear from the mainstream media, including this network, that they would agree with me. I'll just say there's evidence of these statements on the record.

Starting point is 01:27:16 Show me a statement, not evidence of a statement. Let me ask you about. Show me a statement rather than an evidence. What do you call evidence of a statement? Evidence of a statement. I like that. People don't call me anti-fish. I like that.

Starting point is 01:27:33 That was a good one. So then going back to the election machines, I do want to read this from one of our producers. He said that would be interesting to mention. He says the Kentucky election results, according to these boots on the ground guy bring to new york time 752 752 000 republicans voted for the attorney general 784 voted for the secretary of state both republicans uh but only 627 voted for the republican governor what what gives that means between 120 000 130 000 republics and voted for the Republican governor. What gives? I don't know. It means between 120,000 and 130,000 Republicans that voted for a Democrat governor instead.

Starting point is 01:28:09 It doesn't make any sense. Oh, did the Democrat win in Kentucky? Yeah. Oh, well, there you go. He's reelected. A lot of people get confused about what this means. Oh, it's a blue wave. Okay.

Starting point is 01:28:24 It's a wave of nothing. It's a wave of nothing. It's a wave of nothing. Meanwhile, we had to slam Trump. And I wasn't even prepared with my own setup. I'm surprised. Yes. Who do you bring out to the view if you want to slam Trump? There she is, ladies and gentlemen.

Starting point is 01:28:43 She's flapping her wings. She's flying around. Oh, yes. Yes. Hillary Clinton on the view. Lovely, lovely, lovely. You know, this country has a lot of problems. And the main one is named Donald Trump. OK, I can't personally believe that this loser has so many people who still think that he could make a decent president. He's been criminally charged with 91 counts. I mean, he's practically got one foot in jail and no one on a banana peel, this guy. And they still say, oh, we still like him. What do you make of that?

Starting point is 01:29:19 Oh, I don't know, Joy. Didn't you just write a play about this? Did she just write a play? Has Joy Behar written a play about this did she just write a play has joy behar written a play news to me you know by the way you know miss mrs clinton did win the popular vote yeah well yeah i continue to believe that you won well done no but look i i think you are absolutely right to sound the alarm and and what i think um again, we saw yesterday is that a lot of people may not be telling pollsters they're reconsidering, but they are reconsidering.

Starting point is 01:29:53 Oh, you think so? I do. I think that the chaos that comes with him is just not attractive to a majority of people anymore. But look, there are people who still, you know, support him. They say they're going to vote for him. We just have to limit the number of those people and reach out to those who are having second thoughts, who say, well, you know, I thought he would have done better, or how much longer is he going to do this rigged election thing,

Starting point is 01:30:20 or look at all the problems he's got in the court system. So I think we have to keep reaching out to the people who are open to looking at the damage that he would cause if he were ever anywhere near the White House again. I think that we should lock him up now. Well, there you go. Bonkers in the Burrows at the New York Comedy Festival. Five short plays by Joy Behar about New Yorkers in all five boroughs.

Starting point is 01:30:47 So, yes, I guess she did write a play about it. I'll bet you that's a good one, too. Let's go. Now we bring in the lawyer, Sonny Hostin. Some of the polls reflect that voters, that if he is convicted, voters will change their opinion about him and won't vote for him. That's right. Even the ones who are supporting him now. Exactly i trust i trust that our country is smart enough i'm just curious why do you think that's true just because he's convicted they don't believe

Starting point is 01:31:12 anything now what why would they believe there are some that will change their vote that is exactly what these polls have have shown wait a minute so first so first you know people are lying to pollsters they really they're lying to them. But this is what the polls show. You know, I think when you are... It's great. It's any kind of relationship. When you're 100% committed, it's really hard to say you were wrong.

Starting point is 01:31:34 Yes, that's true. You know, people go, why are you still... Wow, wow. Projection anybody? This guy. And you're just like, well, you know, I thought he he would do this or i liked what he did there and it's hard for people to separate and i did say and i believe this and there are a lot of other people not just me saying this liz cheney said it recently oh that there's a kind of cult-like

Starting point is 01:31:55 dimension here oh yes he's like a walking id you know in psychology you've got the ego and the super ego and the id this went way over everyone's head what is an id can you explain id because the i'm sure that yeah there's a there's this i think goes back to freud where they divide this the brain into subconscious brain into the ego and the id and the super ego it's always into these chunks this is a kind of a college girl's remembrance. And so it worked into the... The id is like the animal. Oh, okay.

Starting point is 01:32:33 This went over the crowd's head. The view crowd doesn't know this. Yeah, but it did because it's old-fashioned and it's esoteric, to say the least, nowadays. A walking id. You know, in psychology, you've got the ego and the superego and the id. And so a lot of people go, oh, man, did you hear what he said? It's like watching a constant entertainment show.

Starting point is 01:32:56 And so people get hooked into that, and they don't want to give it up because it is kind of entertaining and interesting to watch the chaos. Yes. It's not chaos. It's a comedy show. But now we have to do something that always belongs in a conversation about Donald Trump. We have to bring up Hitler. I think that your loss to Trump in 2016 will go down in history as one of the most pivotal times in our country.

Starting point is 01:33:20 One of the most pivotal moments in our country. And it's still reeling from, you know, Trump's policies, I think, and the deep divisions that he sowed in this country. What, in your view, would happen if he were to be reelected? Oh, I can't even think that because I think it would be the end of our country as we know it. And I don't say that lightly. the end of our country as we know it. And I don't say that lightly. You know, I hated losing.

Starting point is 01:33:49 And I especially hated losing to him because I had seen so many warning signals during the campaign. But I immediately said, look, we have to give him a chance. We've got to support, you know, the president we have. And I meant it. And I tried really hard.

Starting point is 01:34:01 She said she's the resistance. Hey, man, bring up Hitler. Knowles during the campaign. But I immediately said, look, we have to give him a chance. We've got to support the president we have. And I meant it. And I tried really hard. And then literally from his inauguration on, it was nothing but, you know, accusing people of things, making up facts, denying the size of the crowd at his own inauguration. And everything that I worried about, I saw unfolding. And so I think that he'd be even worse now because he was somewhat restrained, believe it or not, in the first term by people who he hired because he thought they would go along with him and they stood up to him. And so now he is going to, if he were ever near...

Starting point is 01:34:54 Stop, stop, stop. Do you remember the narrative that nobody would stand up to him? Yes. Well, apparently that was not the narrative. Everyone was standing up to him and that's why he didn't destroy the country. People moved to Canada by people who he hired because he thought they would go along with him and they stood up to him. near the Oval Office again, find people who have no principles, no conscience, who are totally tied, you know, to his fortunes, literally, and therefore would do whatever he said. And so the wreckage is almost unimaginable. You know, when I was Secretary of State, I used to talk about one and done. And what I meant by that is that people would get legitimately elected. Hitler. And then they would try to do away with elections and do away with opposition

Starting point is 01:35:48 and do away with a free press. Like Zelensky. Like Zelensky. She's talking about Zelensky. You're so right. I'd do away with elections and do away with opposition and do away with a free press.

Starting point is 01:36:04 And you could see it in countries where, well, Hitler was duly elected, right? And so all of a sudden, somebody with those tendencies, so dictatorial, authoritarian tendencies would be like, okay, we're going to shut this down. We're going to throw these people in jail. And they didn't usually telegraph that. Trump is telling us what he intends to do. Take him at his word.

Starting point is 01:36:31 The man means to throw people in jail who disagree with him. Shut down legitimate press outlets. Do what he can to literally undermine the rule of law. The crowds in 2016 were chanting, lock her up, lock her up. He didn't even throw Hillary in jail. And our country's values. He would use the military to stop her. He never even indicted her for anything even though she clearly violated the law.

Starting point is 01:36:55 Protesters. He's not going to do a whole bunch of stuff right now. Not right now. But we'll find out what more we think can go on when we come back. So what happened now, something interesting happened. I think Legal at ABC called down to the studio and said,

Starting point is 01:37:14 yeah, we got a problem with what Joy was ad-libbing there. You know, this is a tightly scripted program, so we're not quite sure why she did that. We need a retraction on the air, people. We are back with former Secretary of State, the fabulous Hillary Clinton. What I was saying before, I just want to throw this in. Let me get Alyssa in, please. But I have to correct something.

Starting point is 01:37:33 Oh, you do? Okay. Because I don't want the impression to be made that I didn't accept the results of the Trump administration to win. But I don't like the Electoral College. And you won the popular vote, he won the Electoral College. And you won the popular vote. He won the Electoral College. And that's the thing that needs to be addressed. Because it's not one person, one vote. It's based on slavery.

Starting point is 01:37:52 Yeah, and I think it's un-American. It's un-American. I think the Electoral College is un-American. We've got to get rid of that. That's the problem we have to address. And I don't want to sound like an election denier, according to ABC Legal legal these people yeah you're right somebody made the call down totally yeah you're right and this show is very scripted oh yeah yeah she went off script

Starting point is 01:38:16 oh man it's just so tiring yeah and we still have a whole year to go it's gonna get worse john a whole year i don't know if we can we can handle this so yeah we we're the best we're the best yes so i have some uh some we're the best we're the best we're the best at handling this yes take it easy people don't worry we got another year to go before you have to have your vote changed by the machine yeah and the vote of machine whatever do the trick i think ink in the oh we have by the way we have thumb yeah i voted done we have yeah the over the finger the purple finger foam finger tip so let's play here's what's going on we're gonna have some action here in the city oh san francisco oh oh oh oh blaze g in san francisco part one uh from ntd

Starting point is 01:39:07 20 000 attendees representing 21 member economies will be in the city of san francisco but what are the highlights other than heightened security massive road closures and protests i think it's particularly significant this year because with the tension between the United States and China, the opportunity to have President Xi meet with President Biden is a very important one. The White House announced last week that U.S. President Biden will meet with the Chinese leader Xi Jinping, making the first time the two leaders will speak in person since a year ago. Chairman Xi is facing a lot of pressure of a downturn economy in China. He wants the American year ago. Both sides have been showing signs of easing up the tensions. As I've said since the beginning of my administration, we seek competition, not conflict with China. We're not looking for a new Cold War.

Starting point is 01:40:11 Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen is also scheduled to host Chinese Vice Premier He Lifeng for two days for talks in San Francisco before the start of APEC summit. This all comes on the heels of California Governor Newsom's recent week-long visit to China and meeting with the Chinese President Xi. Well, this is interesting. Why didn't they talk about that at the debate last night? What a perfect opportunity.

Starting point is 01:40:37 So the Seoul city's going to be shut down, basically. It can't go over there. A couple of bridge lanes are going to be closed. Oh, you mean the homeless can't move around they oh no they've already rousted them they've rousted the homeless cleaned up the poop where'd they put them i have no idea i've been trying to figure it out by the news reports but all i know is that the whole i would like to take a drive over there maybe i'll do it tomorrow to see what's going on because they have threatened me they are gussying up the city they're spending all the money they can to gussy it up for because they know the chinese media is going to be here and if they see one homeless guy

Starting point is 01:41:14 pooping on the street they're going to best be all over chinese news it'll be a humiliation for the for us well hold on hold on a second because of all, Xi is coming here because he wants more business, which is our dark deal. You know, everything manufactured in China, we buy it, dollars, they go around, they buy our debt. I mean, it's a system. So this really detracts from the whole Republican debate. I mean, someone should have said, I can't believe San Francisco is going to have Xi over. Biden's going to meet with Xi. He's our enemy. They didn't do any of that. I don't understand it. Because they're full of crap. It's all just crap. Scripted.

Starting point is 01:41:53 Yeah, scripted. Scripted is right. When Biden comes into town, it causes nothing but trouble. You've got to paint your roof blue, John, just so the direct energy weapon gets deployed. Be careful. So anyway, here's part two of this. The key discussions of this year's summit will center around trade technology transfer and economic development. The United States is very concerned about technology transfer to China. The United States has been very aggressive in pushing restrictions

Starting point is 01:42:21 on semiconductors. And that's been a very important issue for us because we're very concerned about the transfer of technology to China, potentially for defense purposes. But others are skeptical of China's position in the economic sector. More than 90 percent of Americans have negative opinions about China. So I don't think Xi is going to be very successful to attract a lot of investments to China. While APEC is intended to be an economic forum, political topics do come up during discussions among world leaders, especially when international tensions run high with the current Russia-Ukraine war and conflicts in the Middle East. Meanwhile, San Francisco is aggressively clearing homeless encampments increasing drug related arrests to improve the city's image as delegations arrive hey hey that'll fool them

Starting point is 01:43:12 yeah clean up the streets that'll trick them into thinking everything's great here the question you asked earlier is the question i still have where are they putting them now is this going to be at the mosconi? Where are they going to do it? Yeah, it's going to be right in the Moscone Center. It's actually two sections that are going to be blockaded. It's going to be the entire Moscone area. No way. No traffic.

Starting point is 01:43:34 And the Fairmont. I guess they're putting everybody up at the Fairmont up on top of the hill. Wait a minute. Oh, is it not the Fairmont and Union Square? No, this is the Fairmont on the Hill. There is no Fairmont on Union Square. What's a Union Square then?

Starting point is 01:43:49 Something with an F. I thought there was a Fairmont there. Oh, the Fairmont and Union Square. I thought there was a Fairmont there, which is filled with the homeless. Remember? Yeah. Yeah. Now, maybe I'm confused.

Starting point is 01:44:03 Maybe it is the Union Square Hotel. But that's still a distance away from the... Yeah, but they had the homeless in the Fairmont. I'm sure of it. I don't know if they put the homeless in there. I think they tried to not do that. But whatever the case is, that's all blockaded. So the city's going to be a mess.

Starting point is 01:44:24 So nobody should go to San Francisco. But again, I don't know what they've that's all blockaded. So the city is going to be a mess. So nobody should go to San Francisco. But again, I don't know what they've done with all these people. And there's hundreds of them. I think there's like 6,500. I think this is the time to initiate the shantytown. On the hill. Fairmont on the hill. Somewhere, yeah.

Starting point is 01:44:40 Or on the hill where they have a view. Just like Brazil. Perfect. No, no one cares about the American homeless. No one cares about the American homeless. No one cares about the drug addicts. No, we care about Hamas! Israel! Whose side are you on?

Starting point is 01:44:56 It is time. We're talking about that. Please, can we not talk about that? I'm so tired of it. I want to talk about it because I've got these clips. This is Dershowitz.'ve got these clips. Okay. This is Dershowitz. All right.

Starting point is 01:45:10 And Dershowitz went on the, I think it's a little TV, local TV show, something that Huckabee does. He can't get on any other network. No one will have him. So he's on TBD, I think it's called. TBD. And he's on with Huckabee. Huckabee has a show? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:45:27 Yeah, Huckabee has a show. And so Dersh went on the show in the last few weeks, and he was doing a lamentation, which I had to clip and play. What is a lamentation? Well, it's kind of a Christian idea. It's where you just lament your woes. Oh, you know, this, oh, you know, and the worst thing. And I think, you know, it's kind of a prayer in some ways. But isn't that Catholic?

Starting point is 01:45:56 Maybe it's Catholic. Maybe it's not anything else. But it's a moaning and groaning. No, that's Jewish. Come on. Get your religion Jewish. There you go. So he comes up with a lamentation.

Starting point is 01:46:07 I have two clips here. And the lamentation, as I listened to it, because I've followed this guy since I was in college. This guy's old. And the lamentation, much of this is actually his fault. But the ultimate victims are all good. I'm sorry. I thought you were. Let me finish. It was way too big of a pause. is actually his fault. Jewish professors... I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I thought you... Let me finish.

Starting point is 01:46:28 It was way too big of a pause. I'm sorry. Jewish professors... You're right. You hit it. But Jewish professors are largely responsible for what's happened in the colleges,

Starting point is 01:46:43 and now they're doing lamentations about it. And they blame everybody but themselves. Do you want to back that claim up? What are you saying? Jewish professors are responsible for wokeness? Yeah. Before we play these clips, do explain. I've been through the system.

Starting point is 01:47:03 I went to the University of California, Berkeley. And the Jewish liberal elite in this country is largely responsible for wokeness. Wow. I don't think I've heard this accusation yet anywhere. Well, there it is. I'll have to check with Dan Bongino. Check with Bongino. He'll tell you.

Starting point is 01:47:24 But the ultimate victims are all good people, all Americans, Judeo-Christian values. That's what's under attack. This is a war between decency and barbarism. I'm not talking about the Palestinian people. They should be saved from Hamas and allowed to live in peace. They should be saved from Hamas and allowed to live in peace. I'm talking about these people from Hamas that raped and these people at Harvard who support the rapists. Can you imagine them supporting rapists in any other context?

Starting point is 01:47:57 I cannot. You taught there for many years, one of the most distinguished professors of law anywhere. Your career at Harvard was stellar. I have a question. Since when is rapists worse than killers? He kind of positions raping above killing. Did I misunderstand? Well, he never mentions killings.

Starting point is 01:48:21 I think that was just an oversight. Okay. I cannot. You taught there for many years, one of the most distinguished professors of law anywhere. Your career at Harvard was stellar. Are you shocked by what you're seeing at the campus where you were? You know what it reminds me of? I remember reading about a Jewish professor in Berlin who loved to teach German students. And then he was taken into the gas chambers by one of his own

Starting point is 01:48:45 students 10 years later. When I think of my students who I taught, I labored over, I loved them. I wrote them recommendations. And then they write a petition saying it's all Israel's fault. Imagine if I had students who were in the Ku Klux Klan and they said, oh, oh, those black people who were lynched. It was their fault for those women who were raped. It was their fault for the people who were shot in the street. It was their fault. That's what these students were saying. And I said to myself, I taught them for 50 years. What has gone wrong?

Starting point is 01:49:24 Tick tock. Hello hello this is the lament tick tock what else could have gone wrong these are mk ultra trauma mind-controlled human beings hello well he did a sh*tty job of teaching him if they all if they turned on him and i would say the same thing to that the folklorish story about the jewish professor was walked into the gas chambers by one of his students. I've never heard this story, but it's a good one. It's a good one, but you know, and it probably happened at some level in some way. Yeah. George Soros.

Starting point is 01:49:56 George Soros walked the business. George Soros was the happiest time of my life. George Soros was the guy. Happiest time of my life. Yes. Yes. That's what he said. He said it. happiest time of my life. George Soros was the guy. Happiest time of my life. Yes. Yes. That's what he said.

Starting point is 01:50:08 He said it. And so, so this lament is goes on and it's really, he's beside himself with this. And I think he should be because it's like, well, it's, he has to have some response to think that there's, he's got something to do with it

Starting point is 01:50:25 and so let's go with um part two second part of this clip it must be a little comforting to see that many of the high dollar donors to schools like harvard and penn and others are saying we're not giving any more money unless you stand against this non-jews as well as jews huntsman a mormon has said that many many other people they've said look we have a lot of places to give our money to we've given it to harvard and yale and other schools but look what they've turned out there has to be a reckoning when george floyd was killed and it was horrible one man filled with drugs long history of crime one man is killed what happens a major reckoning at every American, not only university, media company, corporation values, toward America, toward patriotism. We need a reckoning.

Starting point is 01:51:29 And until that reckoning comes, we must stop supporting those schools financially. All right. Got a little applause there. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I just found this to be funny. It's funny because is he just now figuring out that that's, that's what's funny. You just, you, you, you isolated the humorous moment.

Starting point is 01:51:53 Has he just, after he's like he's 80 something now, he just figured this out. And that he's to blame. And he's to blame. Oh goodness. Well, since you broached the topic, let's get a little update from our resident spook, Richard Engel. Let's see what's going on. Let's see what's happening. The Israeli military says it's fighting inside Gaza City tonight.

Starting point is 01:52:21 Releasing this video of soldiers on the hunt for... And again, I have to give props because you know you don't even have to see the video to we just you hear all the the explosions and the death and destruction this is so bad for this is war noise you've heard a noise you've heard a food you've heard a food noise this is war noise for your brain. The Israeli military says it's fighting inside Gaza City tonight, releasing this video of soldiers on the hunt for Hamas. Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu says Israel will take overall security responsibility in Gaza for an unspecified period to prevent another Hamas attack, prompting this response from the White House. The president maintains his position that a reoccupation by Israeli forces is not the right thing to do.

Starting point is 01:53:15 Israel's air and ground offensive is turning cities into wastelands. And many Palestinians say Israel is carrying out its revenge against 2.3 million people who can't leave the Gaza Strip. One month on, and this war still seems to be in its early stages. And Richard, I know there's also a new headline tonight about the war's impact on the people of Gaza. The UN said today 70% of Gazans have been displaced from their homes since the start of the war that's about one and a half million people Lester we have let's see we have Israel being very bad CBS CBS has this report President Biden called Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu again this morning,

Starting point is 01:54:06 telling him it is imperative to reduce civilian casualties in Gaza, which by U.S. count are skyrocketing. Many, many thousands have been killed and many more injured and or wounded. U.S. officials say the majority of bombs Israel has dropped on Gaza are unguided, so-called dumb bombs, which are accurate but less precise than satellite-guided weapons. I can't believe they're using dumb bombs. How about the smart bombs? The smart, but we've been using surgical strikes from smart bombs for decades now. They're using dumb bombs? These officials say the primary cause of civilian casualties is not the missiles,

Starting point is 01:54:46 but Israel's willingness to strike targets Hamas located in civilian neighborhoods. This is tragic, but we cannot allow Hamas immunity just because they hide behind civilians. Israel claims it has killed more than 60 Hamas operatives. But U.S. officials question whether the military value of the strikes is worth the civilian harm. Listen to the horrible noises in the background. People in sheer terror. Good job, CBS. The Israelis have dropped leaflets warning civilians to flee northern Gaza. Even so, said one U.S. official, civilian casualties are not a priority of theirs.

Starting point is 01:55:25 You know, if you look online right now, Ben, it doesn't matter where you look. Wait, hold, stop. What? He said something interesting the way he said it. Civilian casualties are not a priority. Let me listen again. What kind of a sentence is that? What does that mean? Let's listen again. What kind of a sentence is that? What does that mean? Let's listen.

Starting point is 01:55:45 It's a question whether the military value of the strikes is worth the civilian harm. The Israelis have dropped leaflets warning civilians to flee northern Gaza. Even so, said one U.S. official, civilian casualties are not a priority of theirs. Okay. Well.

Starting point is 01:56:04 Does that mean that you would prioritize, you want more civilian casualties or you don't care? That's one way of looking at it. What does it mean to say that? Well, now I have to finish the report. How Israel does this matters. We will focus as well on steps that need to be taken to protect civilians who are in a crossfire of Hamas's making. The U.S. is already shipping Israel precision-guided 250-pound bombs, which have a much smaller blast radius compared to some of the bunker busters that have been used to go after the

Starting point is 01:56:36 Hamas tunnel system. Israel says it needs more white phosphorus shells, which can be used to create smoke screens but also cause horrific burns a u.s official says the biden administration is unlikely to grant that request oh after we sell we just those are all going to ukraine yeah we said we sent cluster bombs to ukraine oh but in the white phosphorus all ukraine yeah and we have evidence now we also mentioned the tunnels you and i both got the clip or at least both had i saw you posted on no agenda social so i have the clip

Starting point is 01:57:10 just on the tunnels which has always been this you know there's always a tunnel bin laden had a tunnel it was so sophisticated bin laden's tunnel system it wasn't just tunnels it was entire entire headquarters layers and here is secretary of defense at the time, Donald Rumsfeld, with, I think it was on Meet the Press, with the dead guy now. What was his name? Yeah, you're right. Yeah, him. That guy. Yeah, and he's got the picture, the eight-story tunnels deep with meeting rooms.

Starting point is 01:57:43 Here it is. Here's the clip. Here's the clip. There was constant discussion about him hiding out in caves, and I think many times the American people have a perception that it's a little hole dug out of the side of a mountain. Oh, no. This is it. This is a fortress.

Starting point is 01:57:55 Yes. A complex, multi-tiered, bedrooms and offices on the top, as you can see. Secret exits on the side and on the bottom. Cut deep to avoid thermal detection. A ventilation system to allow people to breathe and to carry on. The entrance is large enough to drive trucks and even tanks. Even computer systems and telephone systems. It's a very sophisticated operation.

Starting point is 01:58:18 Oh, you bet. This is serious business. And there's not one of those. There are many of those. Have we ever not one of those there are many of those have we ever seen one of these caves yes on the james bond third movie blofeld had one that's where he got the idea from that's good that's good i was gonna say that what we're seeing some of it, some of it is obviously on mainstream television. But when you look on Twitter, when you look on Telegram, when you look on really anywhere, I'm not on any other social networks.

Starting point is 01:58:57 The death and destruction and horrible pictures that we are being exposed to every single day. And the algorithms pick it up. I mean, and I'm going to date myself back in the day. We had a video called faces of death. Oh yeah. And it was, and it was passed around.

Starting point is 01:59:18 You had a, you had a, there were like version two of that thing. It was so popular. And, and you had a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy. It was good. Just hairy. And it was all, it was just, you know, it was so popular. And you had a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy. Oh, it was hairy. And it was all fuzzy, and you saw people dying in horrific ways.

Starting point is 01:59:34 And that was like, oh, man, you got faces of death. And we'd go over to someone's house. My parents aren't home. And you'd watch that, and you'd be disturbed by it. Disturbed. Same thing. and you'd watch that and and you'd be disturbed by it you know disturbed same thing and but this is this is on a non-stop basis it has this is it is severe it's very very very destructive to everybody everybody you need to get you need to get off this stuff get off the social media even off get rid of your phone yes yes be like jcd it is so destructive it is bad for you and and i love these stories so now there's some some evidence that associated press cnn the New York Times, and Reuters

Starting point is 02:00:25 had journalists embedded with Hamas on the October 7th event. And they were following them and taking, they were ready. They were there ready for this to take place. Photographers without borders. I don't believe this for a minute. Well, the mainstream itself is reporting on this i would like to see some documentation they have there is some documentation i would again i'm very skeptical of this report i think it's just to demean the media which is already in bad shape

Starting point is 02:00:58 i'm good with that if any of this is true i'm good with that people should be arrested. Well, they have pictures of known journalists, of them taking pictures before they go through the gate. So, you know, I'm not sure. But if it's to demean the media, I'm good with that too. Well, that's always a plus, but still. And then the other thing. For the right reason. I'd like to debunk the, you know, this isn't just about, this is about the canal.

Starting point is 02:01:32 The Ben Gurion Canal Project. No. No. Wow. Yeah. It was going right through Gaza. No. Look at the map.

Starting point is 02:01:42 Please look at the map. It's about the pipeline. No. No. No. look at the map. Please, look at the map. It's about the pipeline. No, no, no. It's so tiring. Just tiring. Anyway, I've got what do I have? I've got if we do want

Starting point is 02:01:58 do we even want to listen to Netanyahu what he has to say? No. There's anybody but him. Okay. Well, then let's... I do have a kind of an update that hamas hostage update from ntd okay let's listen to that i'm sorry you should play the ntd intro oh i thought you were sick this is ntd now this is ntd a cry for help on capitol hill families of hamas hostages tell their stories This is NTD.

Starting point is 02:02:25 A cry for help on Capitol Hill. Families of Hamas hostages tell their stories and ask the U.S. to do more to rescue their loved ones. NTD's Melina Weiskopf has the story. We don't have a list of the hostages. We don't know their condition. I don't have anything. So I need your help. On October 7, my life stopped when my two younger brothers, Galin and Ziv Berman, were kidnapped. Hamas is believed to be holding hostage a total of around 240 people

Starting point is 02:02:56 since their initial attack in Gaza one month ago. Just four hostages have been released and one has been rescued, but the vast majority remain, with little details known. Hamas took them. The youngest said, I'm too young, don't take me. There are over 30 kids. The youngest of them is only 10 months old. And again, we do not know the condition of any of them. The Biden administration has called for a pause in fighting to allow humanitarian aid to get through and for civilians to get out. While many support the idea of pauses, some Democrats

Starting point is 02:03:31 are critical of calls even within their own party for a ceasefire before the hostages are released. And the fact that there are people advocating for a ceasefire without discussing that the hostages must be returned makes no sense and runs completely counter to our American values. Israel's prime minister is opposing a ceasefire until all the hostages are released. Yeah, they're trying to get a script together. They're trying to get a hostage situation. We love a good hostage situation story we love that and then when you know because it always has a great payoff when the hostages are released screw these people screw the whole media and all of this all of it's so disgusting let's look at iran because that's the only thing that matters we begin tonight with breaking news breaking news just learning from

Starting point is 02:04:19 the pentagon about airstrikes in eastern sy and the target, a weapons storage facility linked to Iran and Iranian-backed troops. The Secretary of Defense revealing that the U.S. military is responding to more than 40 attacks on U.S. forces in Iraq and Syria. These attacks have left dozens of our soldiers and troops with traumatic brain injuries. Let's get straight to the breaking news with CBS at the White House. Good evening. Good evening. We just learning break. What are you learning? Good evening to you, Nora. Tonight at the direction of President Biden, two F-15 fighter jets launched airstrikes in eastern Syria at that weapons facility that is used by Iran's Revolutionary Guard and proxy forces that are backed by Iran. They were in response to attacks

Starting point is 02:05:06 by those groups on U.S. troops in both Syria and Iraq, over 40 in the last three weeks alone that have injured nearly 50 American service members. And just today, U.S. troops were attacked again in Syria. And in another sign of the increased tensions in the region, an American Reaper drone costing about $30 million was shot down in the Red Sea by the Iranian-backed Houthi rebels. They had fired missiles last month toward Israel, which were shot down by a U.S. naval ship. President Biden has repeatedly warned Iran, a longtime adversary of Israel, against getting involved in the war in the Middle East. Nora? And they are sending a message tonight, no. Nora? And they are sending a message tonight, no doubt. Yes!

Starting point is 02:05:47 They're sending a message tonight. We're all jacked because that's what the CIA does. They start wars. And I'm still skeptical about these Houthi missiles. Houthis, of course. They got their own problems. They're sending random missiles across our fleets which are going to shoot them down

Starting point is 02:06:03 as they put it. CBS, the CIA broadcasting systems, all they want is to get Iran, a war with Iran going. That's the next. I don't think it's working, actually. I'm not sure. I mean, no, time's running out. Yeah. Listen to this one. Secretary of State Antony Blinken's shuttle diplomacy in the Middle East. Isn't the Biden administration's only attempt at avoiding a wider war? We learned that a second aircraft carrier, the USS Eisenhower, just arrived in the Red Sea over the weekend. It is headed to the Persian Gulf. That is a clear message of deterrence and it is directed at Iran. And then just yesterday, the Pentagon revealing that a U.S. nuclear submarine crossed through the Suez Canal.

Starting point is 02:06:42 The fact that we can see these pictures is very rare, but it is deliberate. A message. These vessels operate mostly in secret, even called the silent service. This submarine can carry 154 Tomahawk cruise missiles. That is a major threat to any adversary. Yeah, no, that makes sense. Good, good idea. Let's do that. Let's send something dangerous. Another aircraft carrier. Let's go. Let's go.. Let's send something dangerous. Another aircraft carrier. Let's go. This is great. This is fantastic. I thought the Eisenhower's position there already.

Starting point is 02:07:11 I don't know that this is news. It doesn't matter. The media, the military industrial complex, 99% of all of our political representatives, not leaders, representatives. I know they're all warmongers. They're warmongers. Nikki Haley is the cheerleader in three inch heels.

Starting point is 02:07:29 Meanwhile, of course, they don't mention this. I don't know how old that report is because Blinken's not there anymore. He's on the move. He's on the move. Hold on a second. Where's he off to? Following a crisis visit to the Middle East, Secretary of State Antony Blinken is now shifting the focus of his

Starting point is 02:07:44 intense diplomacy efforts from the Middle East now to the Indo East. Secretary of State Antony Blinken is now shifting the focus of his intense diplomacy efforts from the Middle East now to the Indo-Pacific. For yesterday and today's meeting with counterparts from the G7 democracies in Japan, where in addition to the ongoing wars in the Middle East

Starting point is 02:07:56 and of course in Ukraine, topics such as China's economic coercion toward other Asian countries are also at the top of their agenda. Here's what Secretary Blinken told his Japanese counterparts during a meeting today. Watch. Blinken's also visiting South Korea on both Wednesday and Thursday. And today I asked the State Department during its briefing about China's economic coercion specifically towards South Korea, in which ongoing efforts are being done by the Chinese embassy in South Korea

Starting point is 02:08:36 to try to block an American performing arts company, Shen Yun, from performing in South Korea. The classical Chinese dance show, which is widely popular around the world, is banned in China due to its portrayal of some human rights persecutions in mainland China. And the State Department told me that they continue to be concerned about such practices by Beijing to use this economic leverage to try to pressure our democratic allies. Stupidity. Now this brings me to the question question why does he just come to san francisco next week yeah just hang out with him there and when he went to china

Starting point is 02:09:11 she wouldn't meet with him it's almost as stupid as buddha judge going to meet with zelensky what's that about that's pretty stupid let's listen to part two of this and then we can talk about how stupid budigieg is. Meanwhile, President Biden is set to meet with China's Xi Jinping next week during the APEC summit in San Francisco. Of course, remains to be seen how issues such as human right abuses by China, as well as China's increasingly aggressive actions toward other countries, including espionage activities here in the U.S., will be discussed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. including espionage activities here in the U.S., will be discussed.

Starting point is 02:09:44 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. I need to talk about something else because this is just, I think everyone's tired of it. No. No, they're not tired of it because everyone's all, woo, I'm all jacked up. What? You're anti this, I'm pro this. A lot of people hate us for talking about this show calmly yeah

Starting point is 02:10:06 exactly well then let me discuss something else because the very people in universities which alan dershowitz doesn't understand who are now protesting israel for then waving palestinian flags they must have forgotten about black lives matter i thought black lives matter protesting Israel for then waving Palestinian flags. They must have forgotten about Black Lives Matter. I thought Black Lives mattered. It doesn't matter anymore. Certainly not the black lives in Chicago. Clear the room.

Starting point is 02:10:41 This was a meeting of the City Council Rules Committee, which was about to take up debate over a proposal to let Chicagoagoans decide whether chicago should remain a sanctuary city welcoming to migrants by putting that question onto a referendum on next spring's election ballot but the meeting devolved into chaos after hundreds of protesters mostly african-americans packed the city council gallery and began shouting down the aldermen they They're angry after a special city council meeting on the migrant question was canceled last week when Mayor Brandon Johnson's floor leader, Alderman Carlos Ramirez Rosa, tried to prevent a quorum by discouraging aldermen from entering the chamber, including a confrontation with longtime alderwoman Emma Mitz. Well, after

Starting point is 02:11:20 about a half hour, today's meeting was suspended and the crowd cleared. But not before some aldermen blamed the mayor and Sanctuary City supporters of causing the chaos by trying to block the referendum. Do you, as a resident of the city of Chicago, believe that we should remain a sanctuary city? It's a simple question. That's why you're seeing the chaos in this city because you're trying to silence a voice of certain people that just want to be heard debate on the sanctuary city referendum will continue on thursday when the rules committee continues the meeting that was suspended today no word yet on whether any special rules or security will be in place for that meeting now after the gallery was cleared today the regular city council meeting was held as scheduled and was

Starting point is 02:12:11 peaceful yeah it's all the migrants being dropped off in uh predominantly black neighborhoods in chicago yeah that's a beautiful thing but the way he says trying to silence certain people when does he say trying to silence the blacks of Chicago? Yeah, why would they do that? It makes no sense. Can't be doing that. This is a great time, actually, when the news media is just all about Israel and Hamas.

Starting point is 02:12:38 Hamas, Israel, that's all that they can talk about. It's a great time to have all kinds of other stuff happen. Like this little ditty. Federal investigators say they busted a network of brothels in Massachusetts and Virginia that catered to well-connected clients, including elected officials and military officers. Authorities say potentially hundreds of people, including doctors, lawyers, and pharmaceutical executives, paid up to $600 an hour in cash for sex, primarily with Asian women. Three people accused

Starting point is 02:13:10 of operating the ring are in custody. Primarily with women. A little gotcha. Primarily but not exclusively with women, these pharma execs. You know what I'm saying? And politicians.

Starting point is 02:13:28 Of course. Politicians with women these pharma execs you know what i'm saying and politicians of course politicians are notorious for whoring around that's that's nothing new that's that's how they get uh blackmailed and captured and then this um you know, they basically paid off, I think it was 200 victims of Jeffrey Epstein. So they had been... I don't remember the details. Yeah, well, yeah. Yes.

Starting point is 02:13:58 So that Jamie Dimon didn't have to go testify. All right, Jamie Dimon. Keep him out of it. Yeah, they made a deal. They also, they spent a billion, a billion dollars on lawyers, Wilmer Hale. And so, I think, let me see.

Starting point is 02:14:15 It must have been over 200 victims because they wanted to set up a class action suit against Jamie Dimon and, of course, Chase Bank, JPMorgan Chase. Now, 17 attorney generals have said, you know, it doesn't matter that you bought them off. We can still take you to court over this. And it looks like it's going to happen. They're not getting out of this yeah yeah well we'll see we'll see okay good point and then we have in total eight four of which in the last 24

Starting point is 02:14:57 hours los angeles sheriff sheriff employees have killed themselves yeah this Yeah, this is a weird story. Four Los Angeles Sheriff employees die by suicide within 24 hours. Another four Sheriff Department employees have died by suicide this year. This is weird. See, they're either being murdered. Murdered is what I'm thinking. Which is what I would think. Yeah. Because the

Starting point is 02:15:30 suicide, I mean, you know, maybe they did something that they're worried about and is a part of a scheme and they don't want to go to court and end up in jail where they get brutalized. I mean, that's you know, but usually you'd give it a college try uh seems to

Starting point is 02:15:48 me i don't know something's miswith this story is is unusual most most i know cops that have left they've just left law enforcement yeah but that's for different that's because it's not rewarding to them anymore it's not because they didn't shoot themselves. Since the pandemic, many in law enforcement say police departments have been suffering from flagging morale thanks to a wave of anti-police sentiment that peaked with the police killing of children. Lives matter. You can thank them.

Starting point is 02:16:15 Many police departments have seen a mass exodus of officers over the last several years along with difficulty hiring new officers. That doesn't mean that they're killing themselves. Yeah, no. Yeah, no. Yeah, no. And it's Los Angeles, which is just questionable.

Starting point is 02:16:32 It's questionable. LA is like the nexus of corruption in California. And then, you know, I don't have any clips or anything, but the news media seems more obsessed with how the Nashville clips or anything but the news media seems more obsessed with how how the uh nashville

Starting point is 02:16:48 trans shooters manifesto got out than the actual manifesto itself that's that's very strange oh they sold it i ended up in contact with the uh nashville police guy yeah what did you hear He ended up in contact with the Nashville police guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What did you hear? Well, he says that the thing that got out is real. That's what he wanted to convey. Oh, I'm sure it is. And we heard it was something like that.

Starting point is 02:17:12 It was multiple notebooks. Yeah. Oh, I'm sure it's real. But no one's heard. How it got out, it doesn't seem to be at his, nobody seems to know yet. Hmm. Hmm. But who cares? How about what's in it what's in it is

Starting point is 02:17:29 what's what's crazy yeah well you can kind of see that what's in it has more to is didn't fit the narrative that they're trying to push no kidding kidding. Speaking of narratives, it is a very important time. Right now we have a UN meeting about the Poles. And I don't mean from Poland, but the North and South Pole. Because as you know, the ice is melting faster than any time ever before. We're all going to die. It always is I always will. And we have COP29 coming up in the number one gas nation.

Starting point is 02:18:12 I love that. And so right on cue, we need to promote this. We have the Copernicus Climate Change Service, which is a part of the EU, the European Space Agency. And what do you think they reported? They had an an emergency briefing what do you think they had to say oh it's everything's getting worse hottest year on record exactly oh yeah hottest is always the hottest yeah copernicus climate change service said they were the largest wildfires recorded

Starting point is 02:18:41 on european soil in years now the organisation is warning of something even worse. We can say with almost complete certainty that 2023 is the warmest year on record and it now beats the previous warmest year by 0.1 degrees Celsius and the previous warmest year was 2016. Copernicus, which is part of the European Space Agency, says temperatures in October smashed records up 0.85 degrees above the long-term average for the month. The huge rise follows four months of global temperature records being obliterated amid extreme events like Storm Daniel, which killed more than 11,000 people in Libya. Oops, oops, hold on a second.

Starting point is 02:19:26 It wasn't the Storm Daniel that killed 11,000 people. It was the crappy dams that people went to jail over. But okay, let's just... That have been reported as lousy for years. Let's just call it Storm Daniel. Storm Daniel, which killed more than 11,000 people in Libya. The reality is that the warmer our planet is, the more extreme events we will have. And so we'll not only get more extreme events, but there'll be more intense as well.

Starting point is 02:19:55 And I have a question about this. So not only will we get more extreme events, all subjective words, what does it mean that they will get, what is the term she used? Hold on a second. And so we'll not only get more extreme events but there'll be more intense as well intense is there an intensity scale of these storms how do they measure in well there is on the hurricanes one through five oh it's intense a report released wednesday by the united nations has warned things could yet get worse researchers at the un said global fossil fuel production in 2030

Starting point is 02:20:25 is set to be more than double the levels deemed consistent with meeting global climate goals. Those were set under the 2015 Paris Climate Agreement. The warning comes as global experts met in Paris for the One Planet Polar Summit, the first international meeting dedicated to glaciers and poles. Attention, however, is focused squarely on the upcoming COP summit at the end of November in the UAE.

Starting point is 02:20:50 Worrying growth in the use of fossil fuels, failing renewable projects for wind farms in places like the UK and US, and the growing abandonment of climate pledges have all cast shadows over the meeting. The EU's climate commissioner, Wapke Hoekstra, warned last month... If we don't do enough, the planet will be boiling. According to Europe's climate scientists, it already is. That's the Dutch guy, Wopke.

Starting point is 02:21:17 If we don't do enough, the world will be boiling. It'll be boiling. You will be like frogs in a boiling pot, you people. It's sheep, man. So they're going to go to the UAE, which is an incredibly warm area. Yes. And they're going to blame that. Of course,

Starting point is 02:21:36 it's been that way forever. But they're going to blame it on climate change. Oh, it's so hot here. Yes, yes, of course, of course. And it's the two-year anniversary. Time once again to remind ourselves of that bastion of truth, the Ice Age farmer who always speaks the truth to check in with his prognostication from two years ago. Let's go back to that show, shall we? And I'll wrap it up with the latest report from the Ice Age Farmer, again showing you what the idea is.

Starting point is 02:22:08 American farmers are having their land confiscated through the use of eminent domain. They will not be allowed to farm there going forward in order to make room for a massive carbon capture and sequestration pipeline. capture and sequestration pipeline. These pipelines, there are two such projects, run thousands of miles through the very heart of the Corn Belt, the nation's most productive farmland. There are letters going out now, like the one on your screen, by the thousands, announcing to surprised farmers that we will just be taking your land, land that you have owned and your family and worked, in some cases, for generations now. These announcements are particularly salient in light of the fact that even now there are warnings going out from major fertilizer CEOs saying we're going to have a food crisis next year. There's not going to be enough food to eat.

Starting point is 02:23:04 And indeed, this is, quote, a life or death issue. All right. Don't listen to me. Don't listen to me. Don't listen to that guy. Now, I want you to put that clip. Can you mark it with something? Because I want to play it again one year from now

Starting point is 02:23:20 when we're having these food shortages. Okay. And checking in on the second anniversary have we seen food shortages at any moment in time yet john have we seen the food shortages uh depends on who you are and where you live in the united states i don't think so i don't think now it's on it's unaffordable. I'll give him that, but I don't think that that is because of the carbon sequestration pipeline. Well, they never ran that pipe, did they?

Starting point is 02:23:52 Of course not. No, they didn't. I didn't. That's why you need to trust your no agenda show. And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage, say in the morning to you, the man who put the seas in the Copernicus Climate Change Service, say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only Mr. John C. DeBorek!

Starting point is 02:24:12 Well, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Currie. Also in the morning to all ships at sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the games and nights out there. Let's count the trolls! There they are! Hello, trolls! Oh no! Oh no! Oh no! earlier we had 1947 trolls it is now dropped off to 1738 and i i checked it i did a count silent count before we started the is Hamas clips and we lost 200 trolls. That's how it rolls with the trolls. It's not good for business because we're not, you know,

Starting point is 02:24:54 all excited and blaming one side or the other. We're not, we're not doing it right. Take it. We're not. I would say that's true. We are not doing it right. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:25:04 We've, we got to take a page from a Dan Bongino or Megan Kelly. We are not doing it right. Yeah. We've got to take a page from Dan Bongino or Megyn Kelly. We're not doing it right. We're not doing any of them. Any of them. Any of them. Shapiro. Shapiro. I can't talk fast enough to do him.

Starting point is 02:25:16 No, no, absolutely not. Trolls are in the troll room, and they do hang out there quite a bit. And it's 24-7, this troll room, because we have noagendastream.com, which has the troll room, or do hang out there quite a bit and it's 24 7 this troll room because we have noagendastream.com which has the troll room or trollroom.io it's basically goes to the same place once how do you get there from the irc uh you go to um you go to trollroom.io and then it tells you how you can get there from the irc if you want to but why do that when you have a web page that's everything all in one handy place it It's perfect. There's all kinds of shows that you can listen to there. And of course, on Thursdays and Sundays, we do this show live and we love doing it live because we do it live.

Starting point is 02:25:54 And when we do it live, you get everything. You get everything you need. It's in real time. You can sit there at the office. Lord knows what almost 2,000 people are doing that they don't have to work on thursday or they're probably working from home i don't know they're not in their we work offices that's for sure and uh they've kept them going i'm sorry i think the we work officers still running i mean i know the company went bankrupt yeah but, bankruptcy means they can be bought out. Yeah. That means you can still be in business. Yeah. All right.

Starting point is 02:26:28 But they're at the cappuccino bar in the WeWork office with their earbuds in. IRC.ZeroNode.net if you really need to know. If you're really into the IRC thing. I knew it was going to. It's been there for 15 years. So you should know it by now. I'm surprised you don't. I don't. You can also follow us you should know it by now. I'm surprised you don't. I don't.

Starting point is 02:26:48 You can also follow us on noagendasocial.com. I've been blocking people now. Now I'm turning into you. It's horrible. I don't like myself. It's the practical way to go. It's pragmatic. You don't like yourself because you hated the idea that I was doing it, and then now having to kind of do do it yourself you realize you know the

Starting point is 02:27:06 wisdom of it and you now you hate yourself because you're you're wise I don't hate myself I hate what it's I hate what social media has become to me I have a email inbox and I have a no agenda social inbox which I look at once or twice a day just go to my notifications anything good no okay done and then uh x same thing on x which usually oh what are we drinking oh i have food noise well this is uh as a matter of fact uh if i can find the label jia duo bao herbal tea yeah it's the origin of Bao for herbal tea. It's the origin of a Chinese herbal tea since the Qing Dynasty.

Starting point is 02:27:51 It's herbal tea made from prime herbal ingredients, and it's actually made in Malaysia. And it's carbonated? And I have yet to try it. Is it carbonated? Because I heard a pshh. Well, it's not as carbonated as I like. No, because it's from the Ching dynasty or whatever. It's not carbonated at all, and it's too sweet.

Starting point is 02:28:12 Why did it go pshh? That's probably fermented. It's just the pressure of the temperature, I think. You shouldn't be drinking that. They might poison you. I wouldn't drink this. Food noise. That's what it is.

Starting point is 02:28:23 If I grow a second head, i'll let you know okay thank you uh no social media has just become unused it's bad for my health because i get i see people like i get riled up over it then i want to reply no no no no so i just walk away it's no good none of it's any good just listen this has all got to do with blocking people. Well, because it's an inbox, and I just want to have a high signal to noise. I don't want the noise of people tagging me in their personal disputes amongst each other. We had some guy quit the show because of it. Some guy?

Starting point is 02:29:03 Jeez. Lots of guys. Then gals and but and donors and special interests all and donors now we're just going to stay the course uh we'll give you whatever we think is necessary but we're not going to pick sides in any of this it's not worth it it's not worth it to you either particularly because it's a region it's a conflict in the region it was not the worst thing in the world it's bad but it's not the worst thing it is not the most people who are killed in any kind of scenario there's a lot more going on and maybe you could just when's the last time there was a happy news report but even even like a like something just a wedding

Starting point is 02:29:45 they experiment with that constantly and it ends up being on TMZ no that's where your weddings are Courtney had a baby well bring me I want a happy report next show Sunday bring me at least one mainstream happy report

Starting point is 02:30:01 okay I'll do it I consider that my goal in life. All right, then I expect one every show. I don't think you can do it. I'll get you one every so often. You know what happy news is? Naked news. Naked news.

Starting point is 02:30:18 That's happy news. Naked news. Whatever happened to that girl? They're still around. Naked news. It doesn't get more publicity let's see NakedNews.com let me see if they still exist

Starting point is 02:30:30 yes welcome to Naked News oh they're still here we go oh they got a whole bunch of women they're all sitting around like the view naked Speaking of things we like. We're looking for your feedback. Yes! Have something to say. Have an opinion. They're all sitting around like The View naked. Meet the anchors.

Starting point is 02:30:51 Woo! There you go. Okay, happy news does exist. There you go. We're value for value. We don't have any commercials. That would only depress us even more. Although, we're open

Starting point is 02:31:05 to pharmaceutical ads if it's only on podcasts because we'd be the masters of it first of all we want to have meetings with you we want to talk about your branding we want to talk about the names you choose because really you're messing it up people there's a new

Starting point is 02:31:20 the Cleveland Clinic it's not the same as the Mayo Clinic I'm looking at this naked news page and some of these girls I doubt these are There's a new, the Cleveland Clinic. It's not the same as the Mayo Clinic. The Cleveland. I'm looking at this naked news page and some of these girls, I doubt these are their real names. Is there really, you think somebody named Madison Bones? I hope so. Veronica Fox XX. Hey, no, she's known.

Starting point is 02:31:39 Veronica Fox, she was a. Veronica Fox, and here she is. What was the Bones lady? What was her name? Madison Bones. Or maybe it's Baines. I think it's Bones. I like Bones better.

Starting point is 02:31:53 There's a new disorder that the Cleveland Clinic is identifying, which I think is important for everybody to know, because since we'll be going all pharma all the time. R-S-D. R-S-D. R-S-Z. R-S-D. be going all pharma all the time rsd rsd rsd rsd r romeo sierra delta rsd it's rsd it's called rejection sensitive dysphoria what does that mean it's when you experience severe emotional pain because of a failure or feeling rejected this This condition is linked to ADHD and experts suspect it happens due to differences in brain structure.

Starting point is 02:32:34 Those differences mean your brain can't regulate rejection-related emotions and behaviors, making them much more intense. Can you believe the gall of these people? Rejection is a part of life. Yeah, I can't believe it. Rejection is a part of life. It's like phoneliness. Yeah, phoneliness.

Starting point is 02:32:55 End of show mix coming up. So we're value for value, which means, of course, we don't take pharmaceutical ads, no creepy corporate money, no advertising at all. We also don't force you into subscribing and doing things. Oh, you don't subscribe. Special episode. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:33:12 Oh, premium content. Join our Patreon. No, none of that. We give the show to you twice a week and do with it what you want. If it brings you joy, if it brings you value, then consider sending us some value back. That is a very simple agreement. It's not hard at all. And 97% of people, maybe even more, never send us anything.

Starting point is 02:33:37 No, they never do. No, they never do. Never do. Luckily, enough people do of that 3% that we can make it work. It has been working for 16 years, but you should look at yourself in the mirror. How long have you not supported the show? Now, there are many ways you can do it. Time, talent, treasure. So we accept, we love cost-cutting measures such as websites, promotions. Of course, we have our boots on the

Starting point is 02:34:04 ground. Everyone's a producer. Whether you support us monetarily or not, you send us some information that only you know about. This is very helpful. We have a lawyer. We have a lawyer who is following the Missouri v. Biden case. Did you know that Bobby the Op tried to get in on that lawsuit and that he got thrown out?

Starting point is 02:34:26 He got rejected. I did not know that lawsuit, and he got thrown out. He got rejected. I did not know that. Yeah, he got rejected. He filed a brief. No standing. I'm not sure if they gave him a no standing. It had to be it. Well, if you wait for a second, I can tell you.

Starting point is 02:34:39 Because our lawyer, who's coming to the meetup, by the way, I look forward to meeting him. He sent me a note here. Of course, I can't find it. Well, that's just one of the many notes we get. I also got a note about Tom Swift and the Hardy Boys. I didn't. What would it say? Well, I did not know that Tom Swift, the Hardy Boys, and more were all published by the Stratemeyer Syndicate. And the Stratemeyer Syndicate was this guy, Stratemeyer, who just started publishing all these books.

Starting point is 02:35:16 And he used, so he said Victor Appleton is the guy that wrote Tom Swift, but there were multiple writers. He was really smart. Tom Swift, but there were multiple writers. He was really smart. So there was no one author of the Hardy Boys, Tom Swift, or any of this other stuff. But I didn't know that. Cartoonists do that too. Let me see.

Starting point is 02:35:35 Yes, Scott Adams. Let me see. Scott actually does his own material. Nancy Drew, the Hardy Boys, Tom Swift, the Bobsy Twins, the Rover Boys, and many more. And I also learned something else. Tom Swift and his electronic rifle. Do you know what that was used for later? Killing Nazis. No.

Starting point is 02:36:01 No. It's where the term laser came from. A taser. I'm sorry, laser. Taser. Tom Swift and his electronic rifle, T-S-E-R. I don't believe that for a minute. It says it right here on the wiki.

Starting point is 02:36:16 That doesn't mean anything. It must be true. It must be true. No, the taser company, the taser is a company name. They said that's where they got it from. So I kind of believe that. Yeah. This is the kind of fantasy.

Starting point is 02:36:29 That's happy news right there. There you go. You did it. If only Naked News ladies could present this and say no agenda show, they'd be much better off. So we accept all forms of time and talent. We love our artists. We appreciate what you guys do so much. And it really is

Starting point is 02:36:48 the cherry on top for us after every single show. We sit down and we're doing the credits and like, let's choose something great for us. And grouse about art. And it makes us happy. It really does. So we want to thank Dame Kenny-Ben. Is this the second time in a row for her? No.

Starting point is 02:37:04 No. No, no no she missed one she would have been like a four bagger i think well dame kenny ben uh brought us the artwork for episode 1605 we titled that techno douche um and i'm trying to get to the art generator art generator doesn't seem to be responding can you get to the art generator oh here it is yeah i'm on the art generator came through came through it's seem to be responding. Can you get to the art generator? Oh, here it is. Yeah, I'm on the art generator as you speak. It came through. It was slow for some reason. Let's take a look at what other, and this was her instant protest box,

Starting point is 02:37:34 which contains 33 items, and out of it was a little Palestine flag, a little scarf, you know. I got people sending, I got the boys from Mercy Me. They were texting me. Oh, we can't wait to hear this show. That art just tells me it's going to be a doozy. I agree. That's part of what the artwork is supposed to do.

Starting point is 02:37:56 So let's see what else we had. We had. Nothing. No. Jim Cramer with a creepy look. No. The two slices of bread stop war which is also kenny ben no that's not the matt bosar vert war rules was it was the right idea but it just it wasn't cool

Starting point is 02:38:15 yeah the book with war rules yeah it didn't quite do i like the debunkable by dame also dame kenny ben the drink debunkable why didn't we use that did we even discuss it no we didn't use it because we neither one of us you were like what is there and i said the only thing i like is the instant protest and we just kind of decided that was the end it was very short meeting it was it was a rather short meeting yes that's true but i let you have that one i also let you have the the title i mean i had titles and, and you said, I like Techno Douche. I said, okay. No, no, no.

Starting point is 02:38:47 You like Techno Douche, too. And you also like the art. This is an agreement situation where we both have to agree. It's not one guy lording it over the other one like you just tried to make it sound. It's usually like, I got to go somewhere. Just use that. Well, that does happen. Congratulations.

Starting point is 02:39:07 That has happened. Congratulations, Dame Kenny-Ben. We really appreciate the work that you do and all of our NOAA agenda artists. And unlike real jobs that pay cash money instead of a credit, it will give you a true review. We'll tell you. But if we say nothing was there, then your art wasn't good enough. So we're honest.

Starting point is 02:39:28 We're here for you. And we love it that you're there for us. And we really appreciate that. Now on to the treasure portion. We have some interesting notes to get to today. And I got a couple of emails. People were concerned about Sir Animas of Dogpatch and Lower Slobovia, knowing that he is of the Muslim persuasion.

Starting point is 02:39:52 Like, hey, man, I hope he comes back after the way you guys positioned the war. What did we do? Nothing. And, in fact, there he is. Sir Animas of Dogpatch and Lower Slobovia, right on cue. Thank you. Could not have been at a better time. And he sent a longer than usual note,

Starting point is 02:40:10 but also 2356 as his donation amount. We're always humbled by you, Sir Animas of Dogpatch and Lois Lobovia. So let's hear his wise words. This is a wise man. That's all we know about him is that he's wise. Thank you to all the producers and that support this show with time, talent, and treasure. Again, we watch neglected human and political issues raging in extreme violence at a time other parts of the world are already in flames.

Starting point is 02:40:55 Palestine isn't the only example of disenfranchised regions giving rise to conflicts and demonstrating the ongoing failure of the United Nations in supporting justice over the might-make-sense aphorism. Aphorism? What is aphorism? Aphorism. Aphorism. Aphorism. What is that? It's like an old saying. Aphorism. What is that? It's like an old saying. The attacks by both sides are terrible,

Starting point is 02:41:11 and the human slaughter of women, children, elderly, and innocent civilians is wrong. Thank you two for offering some balance in this political and not religious conflict. Yes, thank you. Seeing our respective faiths attacked hurts us all. Anti-Semitic and Islamophobic reaction have quickly returned in the turn the other cheek Christian world, justifying killing on both sides. Thank you, M5M and politicians, Nikki Haley, for again making out religious groups, terrorists and killing Jews and Muslims acceptable. killing Jews and Muslims acceptable. For those wondering about attitude in the region, it has quickly turned hostile following the West's overt side-taking. Western political leaders can rest assured Russia and China will make inroads.

Starting point is 02:41:58 Jordan is about as close to Russia as Venezuela is to the U.S. As was stated in Team America, this is 9-11 times dot dot. Well, 9-11 times 100, I think is what they said. Nobody knows what it is. 9-11 times 100. NJNK, seronymous of Dogpatch and Lower Slobovia. I love that guy. I love his wisdom.

Starting point is 02:42:24 Well, he's out and about. He's in the region. He's boots on the ground. He's in the region. He's doing something. We don't know where he is. He's in the region. He's in the region a lot.

Starting point is 02:42:35 Yeah, well, he's in the region. That's what he does. Which means he's boots on the ground and a top executive producer of the No Agenda show. We thank you very much, Zeronymous. Douglas McFate shows up in second place, although it's not a competition. He's in Waller, Texas.

Starting point is 02:42:55 Yeah. It's interesting we have these Texans coming up here. Indeed. ITM, I thoroughly enjoy the show, and it's high time I got off my douchebag ass and make a donation. Please de-douche me. You've been de-douched.

Starting point is 02:43:09 Douchebag ass. Pronunciate me as Skunkbeard, Knight of the Third Coast. And revel us with the yak karma for all. God bless. Dub McFate in Waller, Texas. You've got karma. Then we have Mary New, New, New, N-E-U, New, from Wills Point, Texas.

Starting point is 02:43:44 Oh, she has a note which is attached. Here we go. Number two, Mary. Mary New. Dear John, and this is $1,000.33. Short note. It says short note. Nice.

Starting point is 02:43:57 Dear John, Adam, granted is your well-earned $1,000.33 in donation. I see 33 everywhere. When you said PhD, I could in donation. I see 33 everywhere. When you said PhD, I could not resist. Gotta have one. Please send me my media deconstruction PhD. For over 10 years, I've been listening with Bose speakers hooked up in my kitchen where I slave making healthy food for hubby that hit me in the mouth. Making healthy food for hubby that hit me in the mouth.

Starting point is 02:44:29 Kimchi, egg salad, kombucha, micro greens, kefir, cheese, sun oven grass fed beef. I don't listen to anything but you and my husband. Moved from Wisconsin to Texas and bought a monolithic dome. Oh, cool. They live in a dome? Yeah, monolithic dome. Send a picture. I want to see that. Short and sweet, no jingles.

Starting point is 02:44:47 Would like German Dornfelder wine and Sicilian beef speedini. Speedini? I don't know. At the round table. Dame Mary of the Domestead. Thank you. Okay, I got to write this down. German Dornfelder wine.

Starting point is 02:45:04 I've never heard of this in my down. German Dornfelder wine. I've never heard of this in my life. German Dornfelder wine. I think Dornfelder's a brand of Riesling. German Dornfelder wine. And what was that other product she wanted? I don't know. Okay, well, you read the next one. I'll add this here.

Starting point is 02:45:22 Okay, we got Edward Tarrant in Dillsburg, Pennsylvania. And he came in with a thousand. He says, jingles, F cancer, don't eat me, Joe. Anything with the jitty reverend and a Bitcoin. In the morning, mofos. Thank you so much for everything you do. I've been a douche bag for too long, many, too many years now. Please de-douche.

Starting point is 02:45:46 You've been de-douched. I first heard you both on Ground Zero with Clyde Lewis an age ago. We were on that show? They must have clipped us. And only have heard one other person

Starting point is 02:46:02 mention that interview on this show. That's the second Clyde Lewis donation. There you go. Thank you, Clyde. Which is also too far back to recall. Actually, I remember it wasn't that far back. I've been hooked ever since, and I can honestly say to everyone for the birth of you, I wouldn't have

Starting point is 02:46:17 made it through the rough past six years that my life, that has been my life. Jesus Christ, joking, but not. Please give me a birthday shout out to my beautiful baby kid, Alana Phoenix on 11-7. I don't know if she's on the list or not. Yeah, she is. She's the best and it will kill me until I see you again.

Starting point is 02:46:38 The message to her. A shout out to my son, Edison. Edison Finn as well. I love you both. Can I please get an F cancer for my dad who passed this year on my birthday? Can't beat those odds. I love you and know you are where you want to be. I'm sorry it took me so long to donate. If you read the off the air part of this note, you will hopefully have an Easter egg to add to your show sometime down the line. The PHB program is a fantastic idea.

Starting point is 02:47:07 I'm in and it adds to my grand plan. Genius. Please knight me Sir Phoenix Finnegan of the Pennsylvania Tartarians. Thank you both over and over. F Pennsylvania. Don't eat me Bojot and you're

Starting point is 02:47:24 scary. So scary. They're saying that all don't eat me bowjai and you're scary so scary they're saying that all hell is gonna break loose and you're gonna need a bitcoin you've got karma i must say my uh my phd came in my diploma yeah i uh i was so happy i thought it looked so nice i took a picture of it uh which you included in the newsletter you tweeted and i put in a newsletter now that thing got 3 000 likes yeah more than anything what was interesting a large portion of people said oh my god look at those teeth which was cool i think you got if you had 3 000 likes you had 2 000 uh teeth likes and a thousand t-shirt likes and what was also amazing i think a lot of people thought I had actually graduated and gotten a PhD. I don't think a lot of people were like, wow, that's a great congratulations.

Starting point is 02:48:30 Good job. Well done. You must have worked hard. And you can blow that picture up and it clearly said no agenda show. I know. I know. I think there was a high degree of people who just thought I got my degree, you know, like, oh, wow, Curry did that. Well, you did.

Starting point is 02:48:45 But you know what I mean. Like, really, like went to school. You mean a school education degree as opposed to a pod show degree. It was fun, though. Mark Borst. Parts unknown, Mr. Mark. Hey, guys. A thousand.

Starting point is 02:49:02 Originally, I became a knight at show 1500 with your two-time donation promotion that was uh the bogo uh although i'm not sure i was ever knighted back then although i could have missed my name amongst the chaos of that episode since i was listening at 2.5 speed back then lol and since i felt like a cheapskate i never got my ring now my ceiling is getting dull so i could use the wax about to finish paying for my oldest in college and getting ready to I felt like a cheapskate. I never got my ring. Now my ceiling is getting dull, so I could use the wax. About to finish paying for my oldest in college and getting ready to start over with my youngest. How could I pass up a 1K PhD for myself?

Starting point is 02:49:36 Thanks for your six plus hours a week in the morning. Doctor, sir, becoming heroic. Yes. Instant night, you get the ceiling wax, and you get your PhDd and you're an executive producer does it get any better i would suggest he goes to no agenda rings.com and put in for the ring yes he will and you also put in for the certificate your phd diploma uh at the same site and you i i sense he never did that no but he will now because he felt like a cheapskate now

Starting point is 02:50:07 he's up the ante he's good to go i love people like that it's good he might just not do anything he might patricia cross another parts unknown donator a thousand dollars and she says i did it i finally pulled the trigger and made my first donation. My niece turned on me, turned me on to your show in July of this year. She turned on me. Turned me on to your show in July of this year, and I'm

Starting point is 02:50:36 hooked. I decided that the PhD would make a great early Christmas present to myself. By the way, it would be a good Christmas present to anybody. I would like to be would be a good Christmas present to anybody. I would like to be referred to as that Dame Stitchy Woman. Keep up the great work,

Starting point is 02:50:52 Patricia Cross. That Dame Stitchy Woman, I like it. Sir Goose Cadaver. Well, parts unknown, but that's from the Netherlands. A thousand. In the morning, Adam and John. Who doesn't want to be PhDd in media deconstruction or maybe better media nihilism so doctor of philosophy name of the certificate

Starting point is 02:51:12 albert peter urien for hey no agenda rings.com you can put in whatever you want a shout out to the na lowlands community thank you for your courage, Sir Khus Gaddafi. I also have to say... That is a... You have to go to the website to get this done. And may I... Just sending us the names and stuff. It's just, no. We don't have the address here. May I say something? May I say? That certificate,

Starting point is 02:51:38 it's good. I mean, and I want to compliment Jay, because did Jay do most of the work on that? Yeah. And she designed the seal. The seal, I mean, and I want to compliment Jay, because did Jay do most of the work on that? Yeah. And she designed the seal. The seal. I mean, it's a raised seal.

Starting point is 02:51:50 It's beautiful. The only thing, aren't some PhD certificates bigger, or is that only for medical doctors? No, that's about the right size. That's the right size? Some are smaller. Well, it's a beautiful, it is beautiful. And Tina went, that's beautiful. I'm going to frame Well, it's a beautiful, it is beautiful. And Tina went, that's beautiful. I'm going to frame that.

Starting point is 02:52:08 So she will. And it's going on my wall, prominently displayed. It is. I mean, it's just, it's, it's an outstanding product. That's all I need to say.

Starting point is 02:52:15 We don't do products on the show. That's a, that's a complimentary outstanding product product thingy. It's like a, this is our tote bag. Hey, you want a tote bag? Give your money to KQED.

Starting point is 02:52:27 You want a PhD? Yeah. Give your money to No Agenda. Ah! There you go. You know, there's got to be people that, I mean, it's an interesting promotion. And there's got to be people, especially in the public broadcasting segment, which I have worked in, who think, you know, we did the tote bag. Could we do this?

Starting point is 02:52:54 No. And you know they're gritting their teeth. Well, we can't. No. Only no agenda can pull this off. Why can't we do it? Because we just can't. Yeah, and because we deliver value twice a week,

Starting point is 02:53:10 more than six hours a week, we deliver value. You're delivering regurgitated talking points and poop. It has no value. What does have value is Dame Karen. She comes in with $1,000 and says, It has no value. What does have value is Dame Karen. Yes. She comes in with $1,000 and says, John and Adam, I thank you both for the best podcast in the universe and thank you for helping us keep our sanity over the years.

Starting point is 02:53:34 Please award this degree to my wonderful husband, Bradley Seltzer, a.k.a. SirBrad1x. Love, Dame Karen. And she would like some Reverend Al plus R2D2 karma. R-E-S-P-I-C-T. You've got... karma. Sir Adam Giant, Cary, North Carolina, 500.

Starting point is 02:54:05 Executive producer. In the morning, Adam and John, my birthday falls on tomorrow's show, show day, so I decided to celebrate with a No Agenda executive producer gift to myself. Please also include the customary biscuit. I think I have a biscuit for you. Here's your biscuit. They always give me a biscuit on my birthday. Your coverage of the trans-Maoist movement triggered a forgotten memory I thought you might enjoy. In 2011, I worked for a Silicon Valley-based media company that owns an online community forum. The company declared that we must add an other option for gender entry on the forum accounts, which seemed crazy at the time.

Starting point is 02:54:41 After rolling us out and tallying the results, the number one other entry was Jedi. All the rest were complete nonsense. Bonus dad joke. Question. Where do you get a no agenda PhD? Answer. Night school. Keep up the great work

Starting point is 02:55:04 Tom. Sir Adam Giant of Kerry.rie thank you thank you very much we appreciate that sh*t uh so we move on to amy thesen in lake park iowa 333.33 and she sent a check in a paper note which i can prove i have because it makes that noise. Hi, John and Adam. In addition to being a stay-at-home homeschooling mama, I also run my own business, a retail store and charcuterie kitchen called Lakeside Market. I've included a couple of my top-selling products for you to enjoy. My best-selling co*cktail party pouch in lime margarita, a sangria party pouch, and an old-fashioned infusion jar kit.

Starting point is 02:55:48 So she has, I guess, a couple of- I got this product. I love it. Oh, you got that stuff too? Yes. I love these party pouches. They're like, I told it, Jay said, what are you thinking? What are these?

Starting point is 02:56:00 And I said, look at this. And I said, it's like a boda bag. Yeah, it has a handle and a spout, and you just fill it up with booze, and bam, you got a co*cktail. And Jay says, what's a boda bag? She doesn't know what a boda bag is. As all millennials would do. She can't tell time either.

Starting point is 02:56:16 What's a boda bag, John? A boda bag is kind of a leather bag, supposedly, even though it's usually lined. kind of a leather bag, supposedly, even though it's usually lined. And back in the 70s, I guess, you'd have a boda bag at your party, and it would be filled with wine, and it had a spout on it that squirted the wine out in kind of a stream. And you'd get over somebody, and she'd open her mouth, and then just squirt the wine into their mouth. And right before you do a shotgun. And that was the end of that. Then that ended 20, 30 years ago.

Starting point is 02:56:51 So no millennial knows what the hell you're talking about. Boater bag with a leather pouch with a leather string on it. Oh, yeah, the boater bag. Yeah, you had a leather string. But I love this product because literally it's a bag, a boda bag, and then it has ingredients, I think sugar, mainly sugar and stuff. And then you just add your favorite. But the old-fashioned is in a jar.

Starting point is 02:57:17 Yeah, it's supposed to soak for a while. I'm going to try that one, the old-fashioned infusion jar kit. It looks dynamite. And they have a real store. This is not just some fly-by-night. Yeah, they don't have cards in front of me. Oh, there it is, marketlakeside.com, marketlakeside.com. And use code ITM for a special no-agenda discount.

Starting point is 02:57:37 There you go. ITM? Okay, that's good. You add the booze, she continues, I hand-make all these small batch, and they are all natural, meaning no preservatives or artificial sweeteners or colors. Please let the No Agenda Nation know they can try these and more by checking out my website, MarketLakeside.com. That's MarketLakeside.com and use the code ITM for a special No Agenda discount. I always listen to your show when I'm working.

Starting point is 02:58:01 Simply put, you two are the best 100%. Hey! Goat karma for all. Love and light, Amy. And happy holidays, she writes. Karma. No, she said happy holidays. Ho-la-days.

Starting point is 02:58:16 She said holidays? It's just a space between the H-O and the la-days. Oh, yeah. Ho-la-days. There you go, Amy. Very funny. She's a character. Yes, she is. I like that product, though. Sir Cal. Oh, there. Holidays. Holidays. There you go, Amy. Very funny. She's a character. Yes, she is.

Starting point is 02:58:25 I like that product, though. Sir Cal. Oh, there's Sir Cal. Another outstanding product. Lavenderblossoms.org. He's in Northville, Michigan. 311.10. Happy birthday to all Marines out there.

Starting point is 02:58:38 Yes. Tomorrow, although it's celebrated tomorrow, but the 11th is Veterans Day. although it's celebrated tomorrow, but the 11th is Veterans Day, and we observe that because we have a lot of veterans who listen to the No Agenda show. We love all of you. So he is saying happy birthday to all Marines out there. Sergeant N, a.k.a. Sir Cal of Lavender Blossoms. Oh, he was a badass sergeant.

Starting point is 02:59:04 I bet. I bet he was. I bet he was. bad-ass sergeant. I bet. I bet he was. I bet he was. Thank you, sir. Cal. We appreciate you, sir. Pursuit of peace and tranquility in Midland,

Starting point is 02:59:11 Georgia, two, two, two, a row of ducks, two, two, two dot two,

Starting point is 02:59:15 two C attached note. And it's on a card. It still makes noise when you shake it, uh, in the morning, boys, please accept this shorter row of ducks for the month of November

Starting point is 02:59:27 to keep myself current. No jingles, no karma necessary. Sincerely, to a pursuit of peace and tranquility in the lands of the red clay and the cherry trees. All right. And he has some accounting there.

Starting point is 02:59:39 And just because you have been contracted to do the read, I think you should do our last associate executive producer. Oh, yes. Yes. So we have Linda Lupatkin. Yes.

Starting point is 02:59:53 In Lakewood, Colorado. Jobs karma she wants. For a resume that gets results, go to ImageMakersInc.com. For all your executive resume and search needs, that's ImageMakersInc.com. Or just find Linda Lepatkin under the show's producer list. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

Starting point is 03:00:15 You stop. Karma. People are like, wait, Dvorak's contracted? It's a showdown. Thank you to these executive and associate executive producers and fresh new PhDers. I look forward to seeing all of you up on our podium in a moment as John takes us through, it won't be very long,

Starting point is 03:00:37 takes us through the 50s of our donors where we give name and location usually. And I want to mention that we have sent out the first batch of PhDs. Yes, of course. Webster County Meetup, $170. That's $170. Michael J. donated $120. And Benjamin Ritgers, $50.

Starting point is 03:01:00 Rajiv Voletti in Bedford, Massachusetts, $150. Rajiv Voletti in Bedford, Massachusetts, 150. Sir, hey, man, watch that sh*t. Or watch this sh*t. In Austin, Texas, which would be a typical name for that area. Yeah. No kidding. 87, 78.

Starting point is 03:01:19 Brian McLaughlin in Concord, North Carolina. Why did I say Brian? His name's Kevin. What is wrong with you today? I don't know. 808. And he says, Archduke of Luna, lover of American boobs. Sir David, call sign Barney, Jarman in North Torremora, 76. Call me Ivan, and I got it wrong.

Starting point is 03:01:41 Oh, calls me Ivan, and I got it wrong? There you go. What the hell? Okay. It's a beef between you and him not me what did i do wrong i don't know you said turamora incorrectly oh okay grace and insurance in aurora colorado 6006 uh kevin mclaughlin again, 6-0-0-6, small boobs donation. Michael Fredl, Fredl or Fredl, Fredl. Kansas City, Missouri, 60. Craig Kuttner in Atlanta, Georgia. Viscount Birthday, 56-78. Sir Edward in Omaha, 6, 78. Sir Edward in Omaha, Nebraska, 55, 68.

Starting point is 03:02:30 William Arcand in Bedford, New Hampshire, 55, 55. Sir Brough, B-R-H-P-H, in Greenfield Park, New York. I need some jobs, Carmen. I'll give you that at the end, of course. Kristen Hines in Manchester, New Hampshire, 51,123 as we get down to the 50s. Josiah Thomas Ankeny Ankeny, Ankeny, Ankeny Iowa 51.

Starting point is 03:02:54 Bad Idea Supply $50.50 Bad Idea's on sale, on sale this week. But I don't know where he is, it didn't come through. Just his name is Bad Ideas Supply. That's good for me. Carrie Lynn in Elizabeth, Colorado, 50.

Starting point is 03:03:12 And it's a birthday. Miles, plain old Miles in Charlottesville, Virginia, 5033. Ryan Tiernan in North Providence, Rhode Island comes in at 50. And the following people all came in at 50, name and location. There's not that many. Matthew Smith in Colchester, Suffolk, UK. Philip Kuzmanowski in Austin, Texas. Jonathan Ferris in Liberal, Kansas.

Starting point is 03:03:37 Jaron Anderson in Hacienda Heights, California. Denica Keeney, Kenny Keeney in Lincoln, New Hampshire. Robertson's Home in Flint, Michigan. That's Robertson Home. Justin Cruz in Tehachapi, California. Edward Missouri in Memphis, Tennessee. Stephen Ray in Spokane, Washington. Jonathan Meyer in Xenia, Ohio. George Wuchet in Lavernia, Texas. Capac Chiropractic, PLLC in Capac, Michigan. That's C-A-P-A-C. William Kidwell in Dover, Delaware.

Starting point is 03:04:19 Nadia Borg in San Marcos, California. Adriana Marshall in Shrewsbury, UK. William Spain in Springdale, Arkansas. William Dolge in Bristolville, Ohio. And Jason Deluzio in Miami Beach. I want to mention that possibly Adriana there in Shropshire, she's a high time she donated,

Starting point is 03:04:48 probably give her a de-douching. You've been de-douched. That's our list of supporters for show 1606. I want to thank each and every one of them for making this show a reality. Yes, and here's the Jobs Karma as requested. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. I think there's some

Starting point is 03:05:09 good make-goods to read that you can, especially for a lady, a dame. Yes, Dame of the Pensacola Homestead says, not to be a pain, but you forgot to play house-selling karma for me on Sunday's show. Sadly, we've had to extend our closing date again.

Starting point is 03:05:26 Well, let's take care of this and add in a goat to make it work, shall we? You've got... Karma. And let me see. John Adam, this is Denise Robertson, who will become a dame. I've been seeing 33s everywhere,

Starting point is 03:05:43 so that inspired me to check my donations. With my last PayPal donation. I have achieved damehood to the best podcast in the universe. I want to thank you for helping me recognize that the M5M is nothing but propaganda for government and can essentially be ignored and for keeping us informed about what is really going on. For everyone listening, make a monthly donation that will get you to the round table. What are you waiting for? Nobody should work for free. And I used to stop listening before the ending show music. Listening to the compilation podcast when you were out changed all that. What an amazing, talented crew your producers are.

Starting point is 03:06:15 That's the end of show mixes. I never skip a minute now. And the art is always impressive. Same with the tech. Great job, producers. For my dame name, I would like to be Dame Denise, Queen of Cobalt Programmers. Ooh, how about that?

Starting point is 03:06:30 Well, cobalt, she says cobalt, not cobalt. So it's got to be that old cobalt machine. Remember, I think it was Sun Microsystems used to make a cobalt? No, Sun Microsystems bought them. I still have one. I have a cobalt cube. Yeah, you have a cobalt. I have a cobalt cube.

Starting point is 03:06:44 But I think, I'm pretty sure she means cobalt. I don't think so. That's what she wrote. I'll bet you she does. For the round table, I like Adam's Rib of Eaton, Ohio Barbecue and Peach Crown. Oh, my goodness. Let me just add this. That sounds yummy.

Starting point is 03:07:04 Okay. Adam's Rib of Eat That sounds yummy. Okay. Adam's rib of eaten barbecue. Okay. And cue up the good work. Please play the longest version of Rev Al. It makes me lol every single time. Oh, goodness gracious. Well, since we're alert the affiliates, regardless, we're going over time.

Starting point is 03:07:21 But she has been at this for a very long time. She saved up all her pennies and sent it to us. So, yes. She's getting lunch at Chipotle. The Tortoise in the race. Kim Kardashian, Siginoy Weaver. What's our ESPICT. They're all jitty.

Starting point is 03:07:48 It's our ESPICT. There's no real conflict. Resist. We must. Resist. We must. We must. And we will much about that be committed.

Starting point is 03:08:09 And thank you to all our executive and associate executive producers. Those titles are real. Thank you for supporting the No Agenda Show. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Order. Shut up, flame. in the mouth. What? Order! Shut up, Slade!

Starting point is 03:08:31 Shut up, Slade! It's your birthday, birthday! On the world's chapter! And we congratulate Sir Edward, who celebrated on the 6th of November. Edward Tarrant, who wishes his beautiful baby beautiful baby kid Alana Phoenix a happy birthday. Alana Phoenix celebrated on the 7th. Craig Cutter wishes Viscount Sir Craig of Northeast Georgia a happy birthday today.

Starting point is 03:08:55 Sir Adam Giant celebrates today. And Carrie Lynn, Colorado Care Bears, cheering the big 5-0. Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe and it is time now to bring up our PhD awardees on the podium please Sir Animas of Dogpatch and Lower Slobobia

Starting point is 03:09:15 Douglas McFate, Mary New Edward Tarrant, Mark Boris Patricia Cross, Sir Goose Cadaver and Bradley Seltzer welcome new no agenda MD PhD to the Society of Learned Persons. The path to this high academic honor for some of you has been a long, if not costly one. Some of the price has been paid by your hard-earned wisdom, some in other ways, but today is not an end. It is only a beginning.

Starting point is 03:09:40 From this point forward, go forth and spread the no agenda word far and wide we will not be silenced we will not be deterred the truth is out there now phds go and find it yeah huh getting better huh it's better you're getting closer i'm getting back getting closer i'm working on it now we have a couple of dames and some knights to bring up on the podium. They get some rings and they get an official title. Oh, I got the big boy. Oops. Somehow my... Oh, boy. Oh, this is not good.

Starting point is 03:10:13 This is not good. I'm frozen. Oh, no! Oh, you know what that means. A crash is coming. Oh, ooh! An unfrozen cell. We're lucky. Up on the podium, Denise Robertson, Mary Nair, Douglas McFate, Edward Tarrant, and Mark Borst. All of you are now knights and dames of the No Agenda Roundtable. I'm very proud to pronounce the KD as Dame Denise, Queen of Call Boat Programmers, Dame Mary of the Domestead,

Starting point is 03:10:40 That Dame Stitchy Woman, Sir Skunbeard, Knight of the Third Coast, Sir Phoenix Finnegan of the Pennsylvania Tartarians, and Dr. Sir Becoming Heroic. For you, we have Hookers & Blow, Rent Boys & Chardonnay, German Dornfelder Wine & Sicilian Beef Spadini, Adam's Rib of Eden, Ohio Barbecue

Starting point is 03:11:02 on Peach Crown, and of course, Mutton & Mead. You're already over at noagendarings.com. I know you are. You're there to go take a look at those handsome Damon Night Rings. There's a ring sizing guide. Send us your details through the form. The same for you PhDs.

Starting point is 03:11:19 Go ahead and use that. There's a PhD menu item. And for those of you who want to become a producer of the no agenda show go here vorac.org slash n a or noagendadonations.com and as always we also thank everyone who came in under 50 typically for reasons of anonymity or because you're on one of the sustaining donations which you can make up yourself you can do a 33 you can do a three dollars and 33 cents Anything you want. It's all possible. And it all helps support us by being producers of the No Agenda Show.

Starting point is 03:11:50 No Agenda Meetups. And also, thank you to the clip custodian, the clip collector, Drebscott, everybody who works behind the scenes and is out there delivering time and talents to the show. Before we get to our list of meetups, here's a report from the TMI meetup. In the morning. Greetings from the farthest regions of the No Agenda multiverse. This is the Mudflats coming alive to tell you that I'm not going anywhere.

Starting point is 03:12:20 Now I'm going to pass the mic to Greta Thunberg. How dare you? You stole my future. This is Sir737 masquerading as a Al Qaeda sleeper cell agent. I have my official documents in my pocket. In the morning, this is eventual Sir Vesselfoot. Come to

Starting point is 03:12:35 Mimita. It's a lot of fun. In the morning, this is Circumference from SketchyCuts.com and I'm just sitting here fisting my nuts just like JCD taught me. In the morning. No name. In the morning. And her head is gone. and I'm just sitting here fisting my nuts just like JCD taught me. Dame magic boop. In the morning. No name. In the morning.

Starting point is 03:12:49 And her head is gone. That Greta Thunberg was pretty good. You should do some stuff for us. I like that. Hey, meetup's taking place today. Broomfield Mile High meetup and birthday bonanza. That's at 630 at Old Man Bar in Broomfield, Colorado today.

Starting point is 03:13:06 The Dame Faith First and douchebags are already meeting in pensacola florida at goat lips chew and brew house i bet they're having fun on saturday the release the seattle kraken two o'clock at vietnamese coffee u district in seattle washington on saturday as well the second saturday slave soiree dick's primal burger in portland oregon i knew that was gonna happen sorry the next show day is the 12th of november oh wait let me hit the cough button it's a little late. November 12th. 505, my scars are psychosomatic. One o'clock at Urban's 360 Pizza in Albuquerque, New Mexico. That's Sir Jeff Toey.

Starting point is 03:13:54 Go and hang out with him. And on November 12th, oh, we have a promo. This Sunday, Friendsgiving in Fredericksburg, Virginia. 1.30 p.m. Come enjoy the best beer or root beer in town. I'll be your bartender. We have a piece of bar food, pretzels, pizzas, empanadas, and corn dogs. It's going to be like a party.

Starting point is 03:14:21 Alrighty, Red Dragon Brewery. Also on Sunday, November's In Day N.A. Ant Strategy Meetup. Come on, man. Indianapolis, Indiana, the Dugout Bar. And on the 12th, that's Hills and Valleys, the next episode, 4 o'clock. De Heeren van Bergendal. That's a Dutch meetup. Sir Andre, Knight of the Empty PayPal account, will be hosting that.

Starting point is 03:14:40 That's a Dutch meetup. Sir Andre Knight of the empty PayPal account will be hosting that. And a reminder, uh, Korean, the keeper and no agenda meetup at, um, Doc's backyard,

Starting point is 03:14:54 Austin on the 18th and we'll be in Fort, uh, in, uh, Indianapolis, Indiana on the fourth for the meetups. We're looking forward to seeing a big turnout there. Very excited about it. That's it.

Starting point is 03:15:02 You know, agenda meetups, that's your list, but there's a much bigger list goes all the way up until Christmas. Really? You can find it at no agenda meetups.com. about it. That's it. Your No Agenda Meetups. That's your list. But there's a much bigger list. It goes all the way up until Christmas, really. You can find it at noagendameetups.com. Go take a look right now. You deserve it.

Starting point is 03:15:11 Why do you deserve it? Because it is the companion to listening to the show. It's where you get connection, which always gives you protection. noagendameetups.com. If you can't find one near you, start one yourself. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days. You want to be where you want to be. Triggered or held to blame.

Starting point is 03:15:33 You want to be where everybody feels the same. Like a party. Like a party, bishus. Like a party. Do you have ISOs? Yeah, I have two ISOs, as a matter of fact. All right, let's do them. Let's start with disturbing.

Starting point is 03:15:56 It's disturbing. No, no, no, no. It's okay, it's okay. And the other one is win. We win, they lose. Okay, let me see if I can beat any of that. Hold on a second. The other one is win. We win, they lose. Okay. Let me see if I can beat any of that. Hold on a second.

Starting point is 03:16:10 What do I have? Oh, goodness. I got a lot. Why do I have so many? Stop clutching your pearls. Okay. We are screwed beyond all belief. Digest all of this.

Starting point is 03:16:25 And believe me, it's a lot to digest. That's too long. I like this one. That's a wonderful way to say thank you. And then the final one. Answer the question. Go. What do you like?

Starting point is 03:16:41 Well, that was kind of blurry. Answer the question. Go. Yeah. This one you like. That's that was kind of blurry. Answer the question, go. Yeah. This one you like. That's a wonderful way to say thank you. I think we can go with that. Yeah, I think that's kind of cool.

Starting point is 03:16:51 I like that one too. Boy, did we get to everything? No, we didn't get to everything. Probably not. No. No, I had to. I got Biden versus the, no, we can. No, screw Biden.

Starting point is 03:17:03 I got the ESG. I got, this is kind of interesting. ESG investments suck. I'll listen to that. The goal of ESG is not better financial performance. It is to force compliance to one view. The House Ways and Means Committee on Tuesday investigating retirement plans being invested into ESG funds. ESG stands for environmental,

Starting point is 03:17:32 social and governance. In the past, pension managers had to aim for maximum profit over everything else. However, in 2022, the Biden administration changed the rules, saying they may consider climate change and other environmental, social and governance factors in selecting retirement investments. Numbers now show such investments do bring less returns. They could have had 11.5% return, but they've only had a 4.5% return. Oh, really? That's not keeping pace with inflation. This witness, Jason Isaac, former Texas state representative and director of LifePowered, says such investments do more damage besides hurting returns.

Starting point is 03:18:03 But it's still the hottest year on record, so whatever you say, we got to keep pouring money into all this stuff. Because it's good. It's good. Even if you lose money. Even if you lose money, it's good. You're doing it for the world.

Starting point is 03:18:16 Companies, investment people, it's good. Dummies. Was there more to this? There's nothing more. Oh, okay. Well, you know what? We're way over. But it's because we love everybody.

Starting point is 03:18:29 That's why. It's just because we love everybody. We love you. And we also love Hog Story. We got them coming up next on No Agenda Stream. And we got some end-of-show mixes, which, as you heard earlier, you should always listen to them after the sign-off music.

Starting point is 03:18:48 They're good. Yes. You miss out on stuff if you just leave, you know. It's so sad when people do that. We've got Pyramid King Ruben, Sir Chris Wilson, and Secret Agent Paul, all in the end of show mixes. And of course, we will return on Sunday with another deconstruction of what's going on in the media,

Starting point is 03:19:14 what's happening in your world, with our usual humorous banter. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country and FEMA region number six, in the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain. I guess it's going to start raining next week, so we're going to have another wet winter. By the way, we had the coldest summer ever

Starting point is 03:19:36 for you climate changers. I'm John C. Dvorak. And it's raining and cold here in Texas. Remember us at Dvorak.org slash N-A. Until next time, adios, mofos, a-hooey, hooey, and such! Someone's pressing buttons. Why don't I have sound? Who's got a hammer? Where is it? Where's the hammer? Is it on the go up on the other floor? I'll go down to the goddamn floor myself. Call f*cking Phil Griffin. I don't care who the f*ck you have to call.

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Starting point is 03:21:13 And constantly tries It keeps asking you to buy With pop-ups on the fly. Despite the filters you apply. That's the elbow. Quote, the behavioral addiction of smartphone use begins forming neurological connections in the brain, and they've come up with their own name, and they call it phoneliness. Phone-liness. Let me tell you about a spin. It's a true bingo. Let me tell you about a spin.

Starting point is 03:22:10 It's a true bingo. I once had friends, but now I'm alone. I'm addicted to my phone. What? Phone-liness. Instead of loneliness. Phone-liness. Instead of loneliness, they call it phone-liness. Phone- loneliness. Phone-liness? Instead of loneliness, they call it phone-liness.

Starting point is 03:22:27 Phone-liness. Phone-liness, yes. Phone-liness is just a word. So I've been told. Phone-liness is just a word. It's got a hold. People make sh*t up, it seems. Am I addicted to my screen?

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Starting point is 03:23:07 That's a wonderful way to say thank you.